While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
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QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM) 
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
can't you get half kegs like with lager?
i think the plan is to have the bar open 7 nights a week with different 'nights' each evening.
QUOTE (GaroldBlue @ Jul 4 2010, 02:35 PM)
QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
can't you get half kegs like with lager?
i think the plan is to have the bar open 7 nights a week with different 'nights' each evening.
I hope there will be Stella on draught
QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Ale can also be supplied in 36 pint casks called pins. These are identical to 9 gallon casks except half the size so can be used where supply demands a smaller container. Don't confuse them with plastic polypins though, these are stainless and take usual tap/spiles etc.
When myself and my good lady ran the bar last season we did try seling real ale in bottles i know its not the same but it went ok , and also the expense for the lines and pump and even space in the cellar where extreme !!
We did at least one function a week when we where in charge and tried darts and poker nights and live music but struggled to get enough bodies in , we tried showing football on normal tv but again struggled .
but hey new regime you should do a lot better
good luck
We did at least one function a week when we where in charge and tried darts and poker nights and live music but struggled to get enough bodies in , we tried showing football on normal tv but again struggled .
but hey new regime you should do a lot better
good luck
QUOTE (WAZ THE BLUE @ Jul 4 2010, 01:57 PM)
QUOTE (GaroldBlue @ Jul 4 2010, 02:35 PM)
QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
can't you get half kegs like with lager?
i think the plan is to have the bar open 7 nights a week with different 'nights' each evening.
I hope there will be Stella on draught
That's a girl's drink over here!!!
QUOTE (Mr W @ Jul 4 2010, 07:22 PM)
QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Ale can also be supplied in 36 pint casks called pins. These are identical to 9 gallon casks except half the size so can be used where supply demands a smaller container. Don't confuse them with plastic polypins though, these are stainless and take usual tap/spiles etc.
How many pints of Phoenix Ale and Blues Bitter did you shift at the 125 night? Wasn't it all gone by 6.30pm? I did my bit to help, I know. Think I quaffed 3 in an hour.....I'm sure we could get through a 36 pint pin pre-and-post match - and that's just the Exiles!
QUOTE (SueC @ Jul 4 2010, 11:56 PM)
QUOTE (Mr W @ Jul 4 2010, 07:22 PM)
QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Ale can also be supplied in 36 pint casks called pins. These are identical to 9 gallon casks except half the size so can be used where supply demands a smaller container. Don't confuse them with plastic polypins though, these are stainless and take usual tap/spiles etc.
How many pints of Phoenix Ale and Blues Bitter did you shift at the 125 night? Wasn't it all gone by 6.30pm? I did my bit to help, I know. Think I quaffed 3 in an hour.....I'm sure we could get through a 36 pint pin pre-and-post match - and that's just the Exiles!
It was 144 pints sold in an hour! I'm sure at least 1 cask of 72 pints will go on a match day, having the real stuff on during the week is more difficult to call as you won't know the turnover. It'll all work itself out over time I'm sure once the club see how sales go. Don't expect mine to be on all the time though, it'll be other breweries too. Should be good!
Should be very good. We should do 72 pints a match easily. It's all about building the reputation that it is worth visiting the club for a really nice pint. It will add to the experience. People may want come back not just for the football, but for a few pints of WC or Spitting Feathers.
QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Demand from who? Real ale drinkers may have a pint or two. Larger drinkers should be looked after as they put real money behind the Bar.
A decent Larger under £2.00 will sell and make money. Plus fruit shoots for the kids!
And bottles of Despreado for that special occassion and Stella is a must!
This'll be a contributing factor to me taking the train to home games rather than driving next season. 72 pints per game no problem, surely. Only one way to find out.
Only needs 12 on it with a decent thirst to slake. We'd be fighting over it by half 6!
QUOTE (Chopper. @ Jul 5 2010, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Demand from who? Real ale drinkers may have a pint or two. Larger drinkers should be looked after as they put real money behind the Bar.
A decent Larger under £2.00 will sell and make money. Plus fruit shoots for the kids!
And bottles of Despreado for that special occassion and Stella is a must!
I know some people will only drink lager, but you'd be surprised how many people don't go anywhere near the Blues Bar before and after the game as no real ale is on sale. Of course the bar will have to sell lager and fruit shoots etc. But those who drink locally brewed real ale will also be boosting the local company who brews it, rather than some foreign beer conglomerate.
I also actually wouldn't be surprised if CFU gets more profits per cask from a local real ale than from a lager keg. And if 144 pints of ale can be drunk inside an hour by those at the 125 night, I'm sure there will be several who will have more than an "pint or two" in the hour before and after KO.
QUOTE (Chopper. @ Jul 5 2010, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Demand from who? Real ale drinkers may have a pint or two. Larger drinkers should be looked after as they put real money behind the Bar.
A decent Larger under £2.00 will sell and make money. Plus fruit shoots for the kids!
And bottles of Despreado for that special occassion and Stella is a must!
Most people who like real ale tend to be larger drinkers anyway pal.
Will there be cider at the bar as well? All this fuss about lager, what about the cider!!!
All this talk of socialising is making me thirsty
STELLA
After the Colwyn Bay fiasco Stella is the last thing we should be selling sir.
Put me down for a couple of pints of WC's or Spitting Feathers finest. (ps that's Old Wavertonian Stout & not guiness!!)
Are the rumours of getting a decent real ale set-up true? I assume we'd need coolish storage and a handpump or 2 at the very least.
Put me down for a couple of pints of WC's or Spitting Feathers finest.
(ps that's Old Wavertonian Stout & not guiness!!)Are the rumours of getting a decent real ale set-up true? I assume we'd need coolish storage and a handpump or 2 at the very least.
QUOTE (Glass of Red Harry? @ Jul 16 2010, 01:04 PM)
After the Colwyn Bay fiasco Stella is the last thing we should be selling sir.
Put me down for a couple of pints of WC's or Spitting Feathers finest. (ps that's Old Wavertonian Stout & not guiness!!)
Are the rumours of getting a decent real ale set-up true? I assume we'd need coolish storage and a handpump or 2 at the very least.
Put me down for a couple of pints of WC's or Spitting Feathers finest.
(ps that's Old Wavertonian Stout & not guiness!!)Are the rumours of getting a decent real ale set-up true? I assume we'd need coolish storage and a handpump or 2 at the very least.
the handpump has already been fitted
Ooooh for a pint of Old wavertonian
QUOTE (Chopper. @ Jul 5 2010, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (stusblues @ Jul 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
While I understand the demand for real ale in The Blues Bar, I cant help wondering if it is a viable proposition. I mention this in terms of shelf life of the product. With a home game say every other week then any casks purchased and not fully used on matchdays will be soured by the time of the next game. Ideally with cask ale, once delivered and settled for 2-3 days then you should look to sell each cask within 3 days of it going 'live'.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Cask ale is a live product that does its conditioning in the cellar after delivery when the cask is vented unlike keg beers that are pasteurised during the brewing process and therefore have a longer shelf life, usually 3-4 weeks. Given that the smallest cask available is a firkin (9 gallons, 72 pints) then demand would need to be strong to avoid significant amounts of wastage.
Just a thought.
Demand from who? Real ale drinkers may have a pint or two. Larger drinkers should be looked after as they put real money behind the Bar.
A decent Larger under £2.00 will sell and make money. Plus fruit shoots for the kids!
And bottles of Despreado for that special occassion and Stella is a must!
I think you meant lager drinkers, but it actually makes more sense the way you have spelt it.
I see it's been confirmed on the OWS that Spitting feathers are donating a cask for every home game. A fantastic geture by Matt. I think we now all need to thank him in the best way possible!
Lifelong Chester fan, Matt Whalley, is responsible for the fine beers produced at Waverton based Spitting Feathers brewery, Matt has kindly offerd his support by donating a keg of beer for every Chester home match!
Lifelong Chester fan, Matt Whalley, is responsible for the fine beers produced at Waverton based Spitting Feathers brewery, Matt has kindly offerd his support by donating a keg of beer for every Chester home match!
QUOTE (Glass of Red Harry? @ Jul 22 2010, 01:04 PM)
I see it's been confirmed on the OWS that Spitting feathers are donating a cask for every home game. A fantastic geture by Matt. I think we now all need to thank him in the best way possible!
Lifelong Chester fan, Matt Whalley, is responsible for the fine beers produced at Waverton based Spitting Feathers brewery, Matt has kindly offerd his support by donating a keg of beer for every Chester home match!
Lifelong Chester fan, Matt Whalley, is responsible for the fine beers produced at Waverton based Spitting Feathers brewery, Matt has kindly offerd his support by donating a keg of beer for every Chester home match!
That's fantastic. Nice one Matt.
QUOTE (Southern Blue @ Jul 23 2010, 08:47 PM)
QUOTE (Glass of Red Harry? @ Jul 22 2010, 01:04 PM)
I see it's been confirmed on the OWS that Spitting feathers are donating a cask for every home game. A fantastic geture by Matt. I think we now all need to thank him in the best way possible!
Lifelong Chester fan, Matt Whalley, is responsible for the fine beers produced at Waverton based Spitting Feathers brewery, Matt has kindly offerd his support by donating a keg of beer for every Chester home match!
Lifelong Chester fan, Matt Whalley, is responsible for the fine beers produced at Waverton based Spitting Feathers brewery, Matt has kindly offerd his support by donating a keg of beer for every Chester home match!
That's fantastic. Nice one Matt.
A very nice pint it was as well. It was doing a fair trade when I was at the bar - did it all sell?
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