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post Sep 29 2017, 10:27 PM
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Based on the premise that a club would struggle at best to survive without the continued patronage of one or two individuals then -

Barrow, Boreham Wood, Bromley, Dover, Eastleigh, Ebbsfleet, Fylde, Gateshead, G

uiseley, Hartlepool, Macclesfield, Maidstone, Maidenhead, Orient, Torquay, Tranmere, Woking.




Maidstone aren't bankrolled


Yes Maidstone make a profit year on year, due to the revenue earned from their plastic pitch, you have to wonder, can they afford to go any further up the pyramid as loss in revenue may outway any benefits gained from promotion, something that would concern me if I were a Maidstone Fan.


Maidstone United FC are a subsidiary of a holding company. The cost of ground improvements, increasing capacity, conversion of the pitch to 3G, upkeep costs of both pitch and stadium facilities appear via another subsidiaries accounts as mostly money owed to the two owners - to date probably in excess of £3,000,000.
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post Sep 30 2017, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE (a view from outside @ Sep 29 2017, 11:27 PM) *
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QUOTE (shunter blue @ Sep 28 2017, 10:16 PM) *

QUOTE (a view from outside @ Sep 15 2017, 08:20 PM) *


Based on the premise that a club would struggle at best to survive without the continued patronage of one or two individuals then -

Barrow, Boreham Wood, Bromley, Dover, Eastleigh, Ebbsfleet, Fylde, Gateshead, G

uiseley, Hartlepool, Macclesfield, Maidstone, Maidenhead, Orient, Torquay, Tranmere, Woking.




Maidstone aren't bankrolled


Yes Maidstone make a profit year on year, due to the revenue earned from their plastic pitch, you have to wonder, can they afford to go any further up the pyramid as loss in revenue may outway any benefits gained from promotion, something that would concern me if I were a Maidstone Fan.


Maidstone United FC are a subsidiary of a holding company. The cost of ground improvements, increasing capacity, conversion of the pitch to 3G, upkeep costs of both pitch and stadium facilities appear via another subsidiaries accounts as mostly money owed to the two owners - to date probably in excess of £3,000,000.


Accounts for Maidstone United Football Club Holdings Ltd have the following note:
As of 30 June 2016 the Company owed the directors T Casey £ 1,365,000 and O Ash £ 1,365,000

I think its fair to say they are Bankrolled

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post Sep 30 2017, 10:57 AM
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That's money for capital investment. Bank-rolling arguably is money to inflate the playing budget a la FGR,
Eastleigh, Dover, Ebbsfleet, etc. I believe that Maidstone's playing budget will be similar to ours.
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post Sep 30 2017, 03:00 PM
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This weekends opponents, Eastleigh,
Chairman Stewart Donald reckons he has put 10 million into to club thus far, having recently completed a new state of the art clubhouse complex. Eastleigh recently boasted they have the 5th highest gate in the conference, although with Adult season ticket prices from just £ 120 a year compared with Chester's price of £ 285.00 its no wonder, they also have regular free games , this weekends offer is every season ticket holder can bring two guests free, which is in my view very unfair to away fans
verdict; BANKROLLED CLUB


He can't afford a decent drainage system though, it seems.
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QUOTE (EltonblueS @ Sep 28 2017, 11:43 AM) *
This weekends opponents, Eastleigh,
Chairman Stewart Donald reckons he has put 10 million into to club thus far, having recently completed a new state of the art clubhouse complex. Eastleigh recently boasted they have the 5th highest gate in the conference, although with Adult season ticket prices from just £ 120 a year compared with Chester's price of £ 285.00 its no wonder, they also have regular free games , this weekends offer is every season ticket holder can bring two guests free, which is in my view very unfair to away fans
verdict; BANKROLLED CLUB


He can't afford a decent drainage system though, it seems.

They happily took money off fans in advance ticket sales ,are fans entitled to a refund ?
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post Sep 30 2017, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE (EltonblueS @ Sep 28 2017, 11:43 AM) *
This weekends opponents, Eastleigh,
Chairman Stewart Donald reckons he has put 10 million into to club thus far, having recently completed a new state of the art clubhouse complex. Eastleigh recently boasted they have the 5th highest gate in the conference, although with Adult season ticket prices from just £ 120 a year compared with Chester's price of £ 285.00 its no wonder, they also have regular free games , this weekends offer is every season ticket holder can bring two guests free, which is in my view very unfair to away fans
verdict; BANKROLLED CLUB


He can't afford a decent drainage system though, it seems.

They happily took money off fans in advance ticket sales ,are fans entitled to a refund ?


Eastleigh club statement:

"Fans who have purchased tickets in advance are entitled to a full refund and this will be available from the club shop."

So, just a quick jaunt down to the South Coast if you want your money back, then!
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Eastleigh chairman Reckons he's invested 10 million in this club, walking around the empty ground today, other than the big stand one end, the club doesn't really demonstrate a club that has had millions thrown at it, either somone is telling porkys or serious money has been foolishly wasted away somewhere.
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QUOTE (EltonblueS @ Sep 30 2017, 07:58 PM) *
Eastleigh chairman Reckons he's invested 10 million in this club, walking around the empty ground today, other than the big stand one end, the club doesn't really demonstrate a club that has had millions thrown at it, either somone is telling porkys or serious money has been foolishly wasted away somewhere.

I can believe it. The first time we went there, the main stand was new, neither the stand behind the goal nor the buildings at the other end existed and the carpark wasn't surfaced.
And don't forget the £40,000 electronic scoreboard for the Bolton cup tie.
But the pitch still ain't safe to play on! Weird priorities.
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How many clubs in our division are bankrolled by a so-called "sugar daddy"?

Based on the premise that a club would struggle at best to survive without the continued patronage of one or two individuals then -

Barrow, Boreham Wood, Bromley, Dover, Eastleigh, Ebbsfleet, Fylde, Gateshead, Guiseley, Hartlepool, Macclesfield, Maidstone, Maidenhead, Orient, Torquay, Tranmere, Woking.

I would add the proviso that within this list there are several types of investor/ benefactor. For instance, Palios does seem to have a long-term plan for Tranmere to increase its turnover and lessen his financial input, likewise to an extent at Boreham Wood, Bromley and Maidstone who have all invested in 3g pitches and facilities to boost their income and reduce reliance on their owners handouts. Of the rest, Ebbsfleet's owners continue to pump millions into facilities and wage budgets - but then when you are a billionaire I suppose that just counts as chump change. Torquay are a worry given GI's sketchy track record, whilst Orient and Hartlepool's new owners do seem to have a bond with their football clubs. Wokings major benefactor also has a deep affection (as well as pockets) for the club, though as the club has supposedly been in talks for months with foreign investors, any future largesse must be in doubt. Dover have invested in accommodation near London in a bid to tempt players to sign for the club. Guiseley's new owner has persuaded Paul Cox to buy into his 5-year plan for the club, promising investment into both facilities and on the playing side (including I suspect, a lucrative 2 or 3 year deal for the new manager) with the target of promotion to the FL which is also the target at Gateshead and Fylde. Macclesfield's owner continues to want out.


Its interesting to see Tuesday nights opponents Woking appear on the list of bankrolled clubs
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