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post Aug 31 2017, 07:12 PM
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Ben Heneghan has joined Sheffield United from Motherwell today. Three year contract, fee undisclosed. Good luck to him.


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post Aug 31 2017, 07:27 PM
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Pretty good move to a club currently well placed in the Championship. Not sure how much of his contract was left at Motherwell, but presumably they will have got a decent fee for him.

Still think whoever didn't make the contract offer to him in time when he left should be shot. It's almost criminal that whoever was in charge of making offers apparently didn't know the rules, despite being paid to do so.

Let's guess the fee is somewhere in the region of £250k, a 10-25% sell-on clause could have been worth £25k to £60k to us. Plus whatever fee Motherwell would have had to pay initially. Could easily have cost us around £200k in total mad.gif


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post Aug 31 2017, 08:21 PM
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Yes, you are so right to point this out. Our only way of making serious money is from transfers. Like Crewe.
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post Sep 1 2017, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE (3mm @ Aug 31 2017, 08:27 PM) *
Pretty good move to a club currently well placed in the Championship. Not sure how much of his contract was left at Motherwell, but presumably they will have got a decent fee for him.

Still think whoever didn't make the contract offer to him in time when he left should be shot. It's almost criminal that whoever was in charge of making offers apparently didn't know the rules, despite being paid to do so.

Let's guess the fee is somewhere in the region of £250k, a 10-25% sell-on clause could have been worth £25k to £60k to us. Plus whatever fee Motherwell would have had to pay initially. Could easily have cost us around £200k in total mad.gif


what a cock up that was, it could of been worse though, we could of given the least experienced manager in the league barely wet behind the ears a two and a half year contract crying.gif
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post Sep 1 2017, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE (3mm @ Aug 31 2017, 08:27 PM) *
Pretty good move to a club currently well placed in the Championship. Not sure how much of his contract was left at Motherwell, but presumably they will have got a decent fee for him.

Still think whoever didn't make the contract offer to him in time when he left should be shot. It's almost criminal that whoever was in charge of making offers apparently didn't know the rules, despite being paid to do so.

Let's guess the fee is somewhere in the region of £250k, a 10-25% sell-on clause could have been worth £25k to £60k to us. Plus whatever fee Motherwell would have had to pay initially. Could easily have cost us around £200k in total mad.gif


Aye just think about that a sec, we could have paid McCarthy off with that money without dipping into additional club funds....

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post Sep 1 2017, 09:43 AM
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Speculation in Scottish press is that Motherwell turned down £250k, and Sheffield Utd paid in region of £400k. So 10-25% of that is a much bigger potential loss than I thought angry.gif


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post Sep 1 2017, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (3mm @ Sep 1 2017, 10:43 AM) *
Speculation in Scottish press is that Motherwell turned down £250k, and Sheffield Utd paid in region of £400k. So 10-25% of that is a much bigger potential loss than I thought angry.gif

Hope this may cheer you up a bit.

Firstly, as Heneghan moved from a club regulated by the FA to one regulated by the SFA any compensation would be determined by way of FIFA's training compensation formula. This is a rigid system which takes into account the time a player spends at a club between the ages of 12 -21. Henegan joined Chester one month before his 21st birthday. FIFA regulations state 'Training compensation shall be payable, as a general rule, up to the age of 23 for training incurred up to the age of 21,. One months training compensation equates to about £2,500.

Instead of sell on clauses FIFA created solidarity payments. When a player moves from one federation to another whilst still under contract, five percent of the total fee is deducted and shared between all the clubs that have contributed to the players developement between the age of 12 - 23. The formula is graded - lower for ages 12-16. My interpretation of the formula is that Chester are entitled to 1% of that 5%, meaning that if the fee from the blades is £400,000 then £20,000 will be distributed and Chester entitled to £4,000.

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post Sep 2 2017, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (a view from outside @ Sep 1 2017, 02:34 PM) *
QUOTE (3mm @ Sep 1 2017, 10:43 AM) *
Speculation in Scottish press is that Motherwell turned down £250k, and Sheffield Utd paid in region of £400k. So 10-25% of that is a much bigger potential loss than I thought angry.gif

Hope this may cheer you up a bit.

Firstly, as Heneghan moved from a club regulated by the FA to one regulated by the SFA any compensation would be determined by way of FIFA's training compensation formula. This is a rigid system which takes into account the time a player spends at a club between the ages of 12 -21. Henegan joined Chester one month before his 21st birthday. FIFA regulations state 'Training compensation shall be payable, as a general rule, up to the age of 23 for training incurred up to the age of 21. One months training compensation equates to about £2,500.

Instead of sell on clauses FIFA created solidarity payments. When a player moves from one federation to another whilst still under contract, five percent of the total fee is deducted and shared between all the clubs that have contributed to the players developement between the age of 12 - 23. The formula is graded - lower for ages 12-16. My interpretation of the formula is that Chester are entitled to 1% of that 5%, meaning that if the fee from the blades is £400,000 then £20,000 will be distributed and Chester entitled to £4,000.

Nope, bit like losing a tenner and finding 10p.


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