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post Jul 30 2017, 09:16 PM
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It is according to the Chester Chronicle

Don't like the sound of this. Where will people park on match day?


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post Jul 30 2017, 10:06 PM
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Can't get me head round that one , don't the football club own the lease of the car park ?
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post Jul 30 2017, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (awaydays @ Jul 30 2017, 11:06 PM) *
Can't get me head round that one , don't the football club own the lease of the car park ?

The club's lease is with CWAC, this application is to Flintshire C.C. and refers to an 'area of vacant and disused car parking' though I assume that they will also have to apply to CWAC for planning permission as well at some point (if they haven't already done so)-

https://digital.flintshire.gov.uk/FCC_Plann...ls?refno=057220

https://digital.flintshire.gov.uk/FCC_Plann...wDocView/122663

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post Jul 31 2017, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE (a view from outside @ Jul 30 2017, 11:27 PM) *
QUOTE (awaydays @ Jul 30 2017, 11:06 PM) *
Can't get me head round that one , don't the football club own the lease of the car park ?

The club's lease is with CWAC, this application is to Flintshire C.C. and refers to an 'area of vacant and disused car parking' though I assume that they will also have to apply to CWAC for planning permission as well at some point (if they haven't already done so)-

https://digital.flintshire.gov.uk/FCC_Plann...ls?refno=057220

https://digital.flintshire.gov.uk/FCC_Plann...wDocView/122663

I have objected to their proposals via the Flintshire Council website. It's a very simple process and I urge all Chester fans to do likewise.


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post Jul 31 2017, 06:37 AM
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I notice by the picture that probably half of the Harry Mac Car Park is going to be used , Is this another kick in the teeth from Chester University ?
Big Sponsors of Warrington Rugby League, Zero sponsorship for Chester Football club, never hear much about community projects from the university, all they seem to be doing is taking over the City Centre. Student accommodation = big rental bucks. you may complain to you local MP, he's from Warrington ! How many years was that piece of land for sale where Swansway Cars is now ?
There is a massive plot for sale at the very beginning of bumpers lane in fact there are several larger plots for sale on the estate, yet they choose this plot, stinks to high heaven this, selling a prime piece of land in the city centre and moving to probably the cheapest plot on the estate. How much money is to be made from this move, millions and millions its all about the cash.

The only positive we may be able to catch a bus to the ground from now on
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post Jul 31 2017, 08:52 AM
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this won't be allowed as it would cause big traffic problems
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post Jul 31 2017, 10:32 AM
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this won't be allowed as it would cause big traffic problems

My main complaint would the air quality, there is likely to be a lot of pollution around the football club, just when the diesel has been proved bad for air quality.


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post Jul 31 2017, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Neil Fishers Biggest Fan @ Jul 31 2017, 11:32 AM) *
QUOTE (blue cestrian @ Jul 31 2017, 09:52 AM) *
this won't be allowed as it would cause big traffic problems

My main complaint would the air quality, there is likely to be a lot of pollution around the football club, just when the diesel has been proved bad for air quality.

that is a good point, having a smokey bus depot next to a stadium certainly worth a mention on any objections raised, pollution control, not to mention the additional pollution caused with the extra mileage the buses will have to do to get to the town centre
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post Jul 31 2017, 11:42 AM
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object here
https://digital.flintshire.gov.uk/FCC_Plann...ls?refno=057220
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post Jul 31 2017, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (blue cestrian @ Jul 31 2017, 09:52 AM) *
this won't be allowed as it would cause big traffic problems

That area has been a nightmare since B&Q was built . What makes you think the council are suddenly concerned about traffic problems ?
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post Jul 31 2017, 04:13 PM
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I literally do not see what the fuss is about.

The club needs to make money to survive, you're living in a fantasy land if you think that having a car park is in any way financially viable.

Parking will be affected but public transport will be hugely improved, can easily be a condition of the lease.

I'm told the area cannot be used for 3G pitches and so nothing is lost there, clifton drive and the field opposite the entrance are more viable options.

If it comes down to parking vs money coming in, only one winner.


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post Jul 31 2017, 04:24 PM
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Are the club getting out from this ?
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post Jul 31 2017, 04:27 PM
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they will sub-let the ground used which will generate much needed regular income.

or we can go back to £325k budget and struggle every season. remember this year we've had Hughes money make our budget competitive.


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post Jul 31 2017, 04:36 PM
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There's no mention of that in the chronicle article, if there was I believe a lot of posts may have been different, perhaps we should wait for all the facts before forming opinions one way or the other, I think the club should make a statement, especially if there is some sort of financial gain by this
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post Jul 31 2017, 04:43 PM
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Your the one who posted the link to complain!!


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post Jul 31 2017, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (EltonblueS @ Jul 31 2017, 05:57 PM) *
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The Council owns the ground, so are the likely to pay anything to us?


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post Aug 1 2017, 04:59 AM
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There's too many unknowns at this point to make a proper judgement on it. On the face of it I'm not a great fan of the idea but if we can negotiate some real benefit to the club (such as through an income and improving transport links) then I'm sure many would be more supportive.


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post Aug 1 2017, 07:32 AM
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think ill wait and see, the topic is far from over, there are still concerns about congestion, noise and pollution, and as yet nobody seems to know whether the club will gain from this or not, either way I still have my reservations .
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post Aug 1 2017, 07:32 AM
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think ill wait and see, the topic is far from over, there are still concerns about congestion, noise and pollution, and as yet nobody seems to know whether the club will gain from this or not, either way I still have my reservations .
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post Aug 1 2017, 12:16 PM
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Remember this is the depot chaps, not a station. Buses wont be coming and going every 5 minutes.

We own the long-term lease on the ground so anything that goes on there has to pay us.


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post Aug 1 2017, 02:00 PM
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Remember this is the depot chaps, not a station. Buses wont be coming and going every 5 minutes.

We own the long-term lease on the ground so anything that goes on there has to pay us.

just because the club MAY gain financially doesn't actually make peoples concerns wrong, there is a genuine concern regarding the extra traffic, pollution, future parking at the ground and noise, this has to be weighed up against financial rewards the club may gain, for example if the club are to gain 100k or more per year out of this then this positive may outway the negatives, however should the club be getting 10k per year you may feel the losses outway the gains, there is another concern, when the stadium was built it was supposed to be 20k capacity and I believe the foundations were actually put in for this, then at the last minute the plans were changed and we ended up with a 6k stadia. lets dream and say the club start to do really well, any plans for expanding the stadium would be very difficult, just a thought
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QUOTE (EltonblueS @ Aug 1 2017, 03:00 PM) *
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Remember this is the depot chaps, not a station. Buses wont be coming and going every 5 minutes.

We own the long-term lease on the ground so anything that goes on there has to pay us.

just because the club MAY gain financially doesn't actually make peoples concerns wrong, there is a genuine concern regarding the extra traffic, pollution, future parking at the ground and noise, this has to be weighed up against financial rewards the club may gain, for example if the club are to gain 100k or more per year out of this then this positive may outway the negatives, however should the club be getting 10k per year you may feel the losses outway the gains, there is another concern, when the stadium was built it was supposed to be 20k capacity and I believe the foundations were actually put in for this, then at the last minute the plans were changed and we ended up with a 6k stadia. lets dream and say the club start to do really well, any plans for expanding the stadium would be very difficult, just a thought

Correct ,there are lots of things to consider ,money isnt everything
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Statement from CFC OWS -

Statement: Proposed Alternative Uses of Car Park

Following recent speculation surrounding proposed developments at the Swansway Chester Stadium, the club would like to clarify the position.

Chief Executive Mark Maguire explains: “As a club, and indeed in my role in particular, it is a duty to explore ways of maximising the use of the stadium and its surrounds.

“A facility used for a limited number of days each year is not maximising the opportunity that we have and therefore it is natural that we will examine various opportunities as they arise.

“Over the past twelve months we have had a number of approaches and my job in these circumstances is to pursue discussions until such time as a credible proposal is in place that I can put to the board in order for them make a decision – measuring all of the pros and cons.

“In this particular case we are at an early stage, and three things need to happen before I can ask the board to consider the matter:

1) An attractive commercial proposal is received which would include income, car park improvements and satisfaction that lost spaces could be compensated for.
2) Our landlords are satisfied with the proposal.
3) That any planning requirements are satisfied.

“At this early stage only brief discussions have taken place but none of the above criteria have been satisfied and therefore it is not yet a matter which has been debated by the board.

“If and when that time arrives I am sure that there will be full consideration given to any potential impact on match days and the stadium surrounds, but I must stress that it is important that we continue to examine ways of generating new income streams for the club as we seek to grow the platform for the clubs future success.

“Finally, I must express my thanks to our colleagues at Cheshire West and Chester Council who have been nothing other than informative and co-operative in providing us with the necessary information to explore various opportunities as they have arisen.”

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