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post Jan 27 2017, 10:16 AM
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If we were offered peanuts for Sam I wouldn't be afraid to let it go to tribunal in the Summer, this isn't another Kingsley James scenario where he was at the club less than 12 months and then off to another mid-range Conference team. We’d be talking about a player who’s come through our academy and gone to a Championship/Premier League team, that raises the stakes significantly, ala Max Power Tranmere to Wigan.


Max Power also had a significantly higher number of first team appearances under his belt, had captained every age group he'd played under including the senior team (they made sure he was made captain when they knew he would be leaving), he had also been playing in League One and League Two before he moved for 300k to Wigan. All of this is taken into account when the tribunal fee is decided.

Sam Hughes is a player with a lot of potential, but he hasn't even made 50 first team starts in the 18 months since he came into the first team squad, he's not played at the level that Power has or rather had for Tranmere. Waiting for a tribunal to decide is a massive gamble. What if the player then starts attracting the attention of the Scottish sides and we end up in a similar situation to Ben Heneghan?

We should avoid the Scottish loophole as long as we offer him a deal early enough, wasn't that the mistake with Heneghan? I'm not saying we should go to tribunal and I'm not saying we'd get what Tranmere got for Power, just using that as an example that the stakes are raised significantly for a player who has been at the club a long time and come through the academy, to go on a move to a club higher up the pyramid.

I just don't think we should be taken for a ride is all, I noticed someone on twitter even suggesting we should accept £20k now, ridiculous stance!


We would be entitled to 'training compensation' I believe it was called during the Ben Heneghan debacle last summer. But again, that sounds very much like a 'minimal fee' type thing.

If we want more money then I am sure Macca and his team will sit down with Sam (if they haven;'t done already) and have a chat about what he wants to do. If he wants to look at extending his for another 12 months then it will be within the clubs interests to make it so, given the interest in him, and that you could probably guarantee at least doubling that valuation on him to 150k plus add-ons and sell on clauses.



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If we were offered peanuts for Sam I wouldn't be afraid to let it go to tribunal in the Summer, this isn't another Kingsley James scenario where he was at the club less than 12 months and then off to another mid-range Conference team. We’d be talking about a player who’s come through our academy and gone to a Championship/Premier League team, that raises the stakes significantly, ala Max Power Tranmere to Wigan.


Max Power also had a significantly higher number of first team appearances under his belt, had captained every age group he'd played under including the senior team (they made sure he was made captain when they knew he would be leaving), he had also been playing in League One and League Two before he moved for 300k to Wigan. All of this is taken into account when the tribunal fee is decided.

Sam Hughes is a player with a lot of potential, but he hasn't even made 50 first team starts in the 18 months since he came into the first team squad, he's not played at the level that Power has or rather had for Tranmere. Waiting for a tribunal to decide is a massive gamble. What if the player then starts attracting the attention of the Scottish sides and we end up in a similar situation to Ben Heneghan?

We should avoid the Scottish loophole as long as we offer him a deal early enough, wasn't that the mistake with Heneghan? I'm not saying we should go to tribunal and I'm not saying we'd get what Tranmere got for Power, just using that as an example that the stakes are raised significantly for a player who has been at the club a long time and come through the academy, to go on a move to a club higher up the pyramid.

I just don't think we should be taken for a ride is all, I noticed someone on twitter even suggesting we should accept £20k now, ridiculous stance!


In all honesty I would take 75k any day of the week so long as a large sell on is negotiated at 20% minimum. If no sell on can be agreed to that level then 100k and no sell on then I wouldn't even bother. The sell on clause in this deal could prove more value than the actual price tag eventually.
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If we were offered peanuts for Sam I wouldn't be afraid to let it go to tribunal in the Summer, this isn't another Kingsley James scenario where he was at the club less than 12 months and then off to another mid-range Conference team. We’d be talking about a player who’s come through our academy and gone to a Championship/Premier League team, that raises the stakes significantly, ala Max Power Tranmere to Wigan.


Max Power also had a significantly higher number of first team appearances under his belt, had captained every age group he'd played under including the senior team (they made sure he was made captain when they knew he would be leaving), he had also been playing in League One and League Two before he moved for 300k to Wigan. All of this is taken into account when the tribunal fee is decided.

Sam Hughes is a player with a lot of potential, but he hasn't even made 50 first team starts in the 18 months since he came into the first team squad, he's not played at the level that Power has or rather had for Tranmere. Waiting for a tribunal to decide is a massive gamble. What if the player then starts attracting the attention of the Scottish sides and we end up in a similar situation to Ben Heneghan?

We should avoid the Scottish loophole as long as we offer him a deal early enough, wasn't that the mistake with Heneghan? I'm not saying we should go to tribunal and I'm not saying we'd get what Tranmere got for Power, just using that as an example that the stakes are raised significantly for a player who has been at the club a long time and come through the academy, to go on a move to a club higher up the pyramid.

I just don't think we should be taken for a ride is all, I noticed someone on twitter even suggesting we should accept £20k now, ridiculous stance!


In all honesty I would take 75k any day of the week so long as a large sell on is negotiated at 20% minimum. If no sell on can be agreed to that level then 100k and no sell on then I wouldn't even bother. The sell on clause in this deal could prove more value than the actual price tag eventually.

Agreed. Wrexham fans are thinking there's a chance Neil Taylor is getting a move to Sunderland for £3m and they've got a 10% sell on clause on him.
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undercover chester seems to think we will only get between 50 to 70k
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post Jan 27 2017, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE (chester till i die 2014 34 @ Jan 27 2017, 11:54 AM) *
undercover chester seems to think we will only get between 50 to 70k

Isn't that just someone with nothing to do who just states the obvious and reads every local paper going?


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post Jan 27 2017, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE (ANDERS @ Jan 27 2017, 11:56 AM) *
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undercover chester seems to think we will only get between 50 to 70k

Isn't that just someone with nothing to do who just states the obvious and reads every local paper going?


No, it's not.

Meanwhile, Chronicle have been very quiet today haven't they. They're usually quite on the ball to nip these sorts of things in the bud early doors.

I wonder why they've not commented....

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undercover chester seems to think we will only get between 50 to 70k

Isn't that just someone with nothing to do who just states the obvious and reads every local paper going?


No, it's not.

Meanwhile, Chronicle have been very quiet today haven't they. They're usually quite on the ball to nip these sorts of things in the bud early doors.

I wonder why they've not commented....

How do you know it isn't?


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post Jan 27 2017, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (Derry Exile @ Jan 27 2017, 12:12 PM) *
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QUOTE (chester till i die 2014 34 @ Jan 27 2017, 11:54 AM) *
undercover chester seems to think we will only get between 50 to 70k

Isn't that just someone with nothing to do who just states the obvious and reads every local paper going?


No, it's not.

Meanwhile, Chronicle have been very quiet today haven't they. They're usually quite on the ball to nip these sorts of things in the bud early doors.

I wonder why they've not commented....

It's mostly just stuff we already know, if not it's something like Macca wanting to sign four players a few weeks ago. rolleyes.gif

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undercover chester seems to think we will only get between 50 to 70k

Isn't that just someone with nothing to do who just states the obvious and reads every local paper going?


No, it's not.

Meanwhile, Chronicle have been very quiet today haven't they. They're usually quite on the ball to nip these sorts of things in the bud early doors.

I wonder why they've not commented....

It's mostly just stuff we already know, if not it's something like Macca wanting to sign four players a few weeks ago. rolleyes.gif


Well technically he's halfway there already isn't he bringing Vassell and Lloyd back...


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If we were offered peanuts for Sam I wouldn't be afraid to let it go to tribunal in the Summer, this isn't another Kingsley James scenario where he was at the club less than 12 months and then off to another mid-range Conference team. We’d be talking about a player who’s come through our academy and gone to a Championship/Premier League team, that raises the stakes significantly, ala Max Power Tranmere to Wigan.

A serious question - how long has Sam been on our books, wasn't he at Tranmere before he came here.
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QUOTE (open yer eyes man @ Jan 27 2017, 12:19 PM) *
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undercover chester seems to think we will only get between 50 to 70k

Isn't that just someone with nothing to do who just states the obvious and reads every local paper going?


No, it's not.

Meanwhile, Chronicle have been very quiet today haven't they. They're usually quite on the ball to nip these sorts of things in the bud early doors.

I wonder why they've not commented....

How do you know it isn't?


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post Jan 27 2017, 01:46 PM
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If we were offered peanuts for Sam I wouldn't be afraid to let it go to tribunal in the Summer, this isn't another Kingsley James scenario where he was at the club less than 12 months and then off to another mid-range Conference team. We’d be talking about a player who’s come through our academy and gone to a Championship/Premier League team, that raises the stakes significantly, ala Max Power Tranmere to Wigan.


Max Power also had a significantly higher number of first team appearances under his belt, had captained every age group he'd played under including the senior team (they made sure he was made captain when they knew he would be leaving), he had also been playing in League One and League Two before he moved for 300k to Wigan. All of this is taken into account when the tribunal fee is decided.

Sam Hughes is a player with a lot of potential, but he hasn't even made 50 first team starts in the 18 months since he came into the first team squad, he's not played at the level that Power has or rather had for Tranmere. Waiting for a tribunal to decide is a massive gamble. What if the player then starts attracting the attention of the Scottish sides and we end up in a similar situation to Ben Heneghan?

We should avoid the Scottish loophole as long as we offer him a deal early enough, wasn't that the mistake with Heneghan? I'm not saying we should go to tribunal and I'm not saying we'd get what Tranmere got for Power, just using that as an example that the stakes are raised significantly for a player who has been at the club a long time and come through the academy, to go on a move to a club higher up the pyramid.

I just don't think we should be taken for a ride is all, I noticed someone on twitter even suggesting we should accept £20k now, ridiculous stance!


In all honesty I would take 75k any day of the week so long as a large sell on is negotiated at 20% minimum. If no sell on can be agreed to that level then 100k and no sell on then I wouldn't even bother. The sell on clause in this deal could prove more value than the actual price tag eventually.

Agreed, but not just a sell on fee, we should be looking for appearance money and dare I say, international call-ups.
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undercover chester seems to think we will only get between 50 to 70k

Isn't that just someone with nothing to do who just states the obvious and reads every local paper going?


No, it's not.

Meanwhile, Chronicle have been very quiet today haven't they. They're usually quite on the ball to nip these sorts of things in the bud early doors.

I wonder why they've not commented....

How do you know it isn't?


Derry Exile is Chester Undercover, so I've been told anyway.


Wrong!

Sorry mate but it's not me. I barely post on Twitter, not really a fan of it to be honest.

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undercover chester seems to think we will only get between 50 to 70k

Isn't that just someone with nothing to do who just states the obvious and reads every local paper going?


No, it's not.

Meanwhile, Chronicle have been very quiet today haven't they. They're usually quite on the ball to nip these sorts of things in the bud early doors.

I wonder why they've not commented....

How do you know it isn't?


Derry Exile is Chester Undercover, so I've been told anyway.


Wrong!

Sorry mate but it's not me. I barely post on Twitter, not really a fan of it to be honest.

Sounds like something someone who's undercover would say...


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Rumour - Ross Hannah is being linked with a loan move to AFC Fylde.
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Rumour - Ross Hannah is being linked with a loan move to AFC Fylde.

Seems odd given they've scored 76 goals in in 26 games.

If it is the case then we should try and get Matty Hughes on loan.


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Rumour - Ross Hannah is being linked with a loan move to AFC Fylde.

Seems odd given they've scored 76 goals in in 26 games.

If it is the case then we should try and get Matty Hughes on loan.

Yes that would be good Matty Hughes looks like Ross is Available then ?
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Rumour - Ross Hannah is being linked with a loan move to AFC Fylde.

Seems odd given they've scored 76 goals in in 26 games.

If it is the case then we should try and get Matty Hughes on loan.

Yes that would be good Matty Hughes looks like Ross is Available then ?


Fylde are bankrolled, we couldn't afford either wage.
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If we were offered peanuts for Sam I wouldn't be afraid to let it go to tribunal in the Summer, this isn't another Kingsley James scenario where he was at the club less than 12 months and then off to another mid-range Conference team. We’d be talking about a player who’s come through our academy and gone to a Championship/Premier League team, that raises the stakes significantly, ala Max Power Tranmere to Wigan.


Max Power also had a significantly higher number of first team appearances under his belt, had captained every age group he'd played under including the senior team (they made sure he was made captain when they knew he would be leaving), he had also been playing in League One and League Two before he moved for 300k to Wigan. All of this is taken into account when the tribunal fee is decided.

Sam Hughes is a player with a lot of potential, but he hasn't even made 50 first team starts in the 18 months since he came into the first team squad, he's not played at the level that Power has or rather had for Tranmere. Waiting for a tribunal to decide is a massive gamble. What if the player then starts attracting the attention of the Scottish sides and we end up in a similar situation to Ben Heneghan?

We should avoid the Scottish loophole as long as we offer him a deal early enough, wasn't that the mistake with Heneghan? I'm not saying we should go to tribunal and I'm not saying we'd get what Tranmere got for Power, just using that as an example that the stakes are raised significantly for a player who has been at the club a long time and come through the academy, to go on a move to a club higher up the pyramid.

I just don't think we should be taken for a ride is all, I noticed someone on twitter even suggesting we should accept £20k now, ridiculous stance!


In all honesty I would take 75k any day of the week so long as a large sell on is negotiated at 20% minimum. If no sell on can be agreed to that level then 100k and no sell on then I wouldn't even bother. The sell on clause in this deal could prove more value than the actual price tag eventually.

Agreed. Wrexham fans are thinking there's a chance Neil Taylor is getting a move to Sunderland for £3m and they've got a 10% sell on clause on him.

To be honest I Wouldn't buy him,(injury prone) The money would be nice, but he has been at Swansea since 2010 and every season since someone wants him but he is still at Swansea
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If we were offered peanuts for Sam I wouldn't be afraid to let it go to tribunal in the Summer, this isn't another Kingsley James scenario where he was at the club less than 12 months and then off to another mid-range Conference team. We’d be talking about a player who’s come through our academy and gone to a Championship/Premier League team, that raises the stakes significantly, ala Max Power Tranmere to Wigan.


Max Power also had a significantly higher number of first team appearances under his belt, had captained every age group he'd played under including the senior team (they made sure he was made captain when they knew he would be leaving), he had also been playing in League One and League Two before he moved for 300k to Wigan. All of this is taken into account when the tribunal fee is decided.

Sam Hughes is a player with a lot of potential, but he hasn't even made 50 first team starts in the 18 months since he came into the first team squad, he's not played at the level that Power has or rather had for Tranmere. Waiting for a tribunal to decide is a massive gamble. What if the player then starts attracting the attention of the Scottish sides and we end up in a similar situation to Ben Heneghan?

We should avoid the Scottish loophole as long as we offer him a deal early enough, wasn't that the mistake with Heneghan? I'm not saying we should go to tribunal and I'm not saying we'd get what Tranmere got for Power, just using that as an example that the stakes are raised significantly for a player who has been at the club a long time and come through the academy, to go on a move to a club higher up the pyramid.

I just don't think we should be taken for a ride is all, I noticed someone on twitter even suggesting we should accept £20k now, ridiculous stance!


In all honesty I would take 75k any day of the week so long as a large sell on is negotiated at 20% minimum. If no sell on can be agreed to that level then 100k and no sell on then I wouldn't even bother. The sell on clause in this deal could prove more value than the actual price tag eventually.

Agreed. Wrexham fans are thinking there's a chance Neil Taylor is getting a move to Sunderland for £3m and they've got a 10% sell on clause on him.

Sunderland not pursuing it any further apparently
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Rumour - Ross Hannah is being linked with a loan move to AFC Fylde.

Seems odd given they've scored 76 goals in in 26 games.

If it is the case then we should try and get Matty Hughes on loan.

Agreed. Fylde seem to be romping away with the league do I don't know why they want Ross unless they are cashing in on Danny Rowe. Not sure Matty has done that much this season.
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Solihull have signed Barnsley striker Harry White for an nominal fee (he scored against for both Kidderminster and Boreham last season).

He is the type of player that we should be looking to bring in.


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Solihull have signed Barnsley striker Harry White for an nominal fee (he scored against for both Kidderminster and Boreham last season).

He is the type of player that we should be looking to bring in.


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post May 18 2017, 06:54 AM
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Matt Rhead to Chester. Sources in Lincoln reckon he's on the move.
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QUOTE (ccmattfc @ May 18 2017, 07:54 AM) *
Matt Rhead to Chester. Sources in Lincoln reckon he's on the move.



National League is his level, but who would provide the crosses for him and would we be able to put together a package that would interest him .. I suspect not!
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