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post Nov 27 2009, 12:04 AM
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Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


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post Nov 27 2009, 12:05 AM
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Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.
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post Nov 27 2009, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (Ron Seal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:05 AM) *
QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:04 AM) *
Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.

Just about to post the same thing.


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post Nov 27 2009, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE (Ron Seal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:05 AM) *
QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:04 AM) *
Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.


well it is what have we done to stop him. That's why Wr**h*m survived becuase they fought to the final hour to save thei club


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post Nov 27 2009, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:08 AM) *
QUOTE (Ron Seal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:05 AM) *
QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:04 AM) *
Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.


well it is what have we done to stop him. That's why Wr**h*m survived becuase they fought to the final hour to save thei club


Wr**h*m did well to overcome their problems but let's get one thing straight, they haven't had to come through anything like the amount of adversity that we've faced over the last twenty years. They never lost their ground, they never spent two years in exile, they've only been out the league once, they've never been run by a deranged American egotist and they've never had to deal with anyone like SV

Hamilton was a joke, we'd have hassled him out of Chester like we did with Smith. Vaughan on the other hand is a dangerous and malicious man motivated by spite


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post Nov 27 2009, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:08 AM) *
QUOTE (Ron Seal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:05 AM) *
QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:04 AM) *
Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.


well it is what have we done to stop him. That's why Wr**h*m survived becuase they fought to the final hour to save thei club

Vaughan isn't easily removed though, and I doubt anything that might of been done would of made a blind bit of difference.

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QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:04 AM) *
Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.


well it is what have we done to stop him. That's why Wr**h*m survived becuase they fought to the final hour to save thei club

Vaughan isn't easily removed though, and I doubt anything that might of been done would of made a blind bit of difference.

The bastard sticks like s**t to a blanket.


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post Nov 27 2009, 12:33 AM
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outside looking in... the scenario is very different from Wr**h*m's.

so it's impossible to judge chester fans against Wr**h*m fans.

You've never had enough unity, because SV had divided you way before it was possible to try and force him out...and that isn't your fault...that's Vaughan's

There is no time for an inquest... there's only time to find common ground, try to get rid of SV and making sure you're playing us for a valentines day re-run in 2010.

re: hamilton - first time we met, he came to meet me with a kosh in his hand..

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post Nov 27 2009, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:04 AM) *
Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.


well it is what have we done to stop him. That's why Wr**h*m survived becuase they fought to the final hour to save thei club


Wr**h*m did well to overcome their problems but let's get one thing straight, they haven't had to come through anything like the amount of adversity that we've faced over the last twenty years. They never lost their ground, they never spent two years in exile, they've only been out the league once, they've never been run by a deranged American egotist and they've never had to deal with anyone like SV

Hamilton was a joke, we'd have hassled him out of Chester like we did with Smith. Vaughan on the other hand is a dangerous and malicious man motivated by spite




Have you been driving around all the late night supermarkets buying your White Lightening and legal ammount of Paracetamol XWWB?
Even most Wxm fans would acknowledge that you bindippers have had a less than perfect twenty years or so.
Hamilton was certainly not a joke. In reality he was a bigger threat than T***y S***h and Vaughan put together because he nearly aquired a smooth running football club by near genius. Something what Baldrick would call a very cunning plan.
Can anyone really suggest that Vaughan is running Chester to the ground out of spite? Or is it just bad management on his part in trying to dispose of money i'e charging CCFC £14k a week for cleaning the club offices?
Things are hardly rosy at Wxm. Ground certainly in doubt, only 400 pating customers through the turnstilles on Tuesday, an ailing football club etc
In your hour of desperation you still have a pop at Wxm. Just like on Football Focus all those years ago at the Fans Utd thing they still showed two a***oles banging a drum at the game singing 'we hate Wxm'

You should have chanelled your energies into action instead of havinga pop at us all the time

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post Nov 27 2009, 12:46 AM
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post Nov 27 2009, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE (Goats 'n Roses @ Nov 27 2009, 12:42 AM) *
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Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.


well it is what have we done to stop him. That's why Wr**h*m survived becuase they fought to the final hour to save thei club


Wr**h*m did well to overcome their problems but let's get one thing straight, they haven't had to come through anything like the amount of adversity that we've faced over the last twenty years. They never lost their ground, they never spent two years in exile, they've only been out the league once, they've never been run by a deranged American egotist and they've never had to deal with anyone like SV

Hamilton was a joke, we'd have hassled him out of Chester like we did with Smith. Vaughan on the other hand is a dangerous and malicious man motivated by spite




Have you been driving around all the late night supermarkets buying your White Lightening and legal ammount of Paracetamol XWWB?
Even most Wxm fans would acknowledge that you bindippers have had a less than perfect twenty years or so.
Hamilton was certainly not a joke. In reality he was a bigger threat than T***y S***h and Vaughan put together because he nearly aquired a smooth running football club by near genius. Something what Baldrick would call a very cunning plan.
Can anyone really suggest that Vaughan is running Chester to the ground out of spite? Or is it just bad management on his part in trying to dispose of money i'e charging CCFC £14k a week for cleaning the club offices?
Things are hardly rosy at Wxm. Ground certainly in doubt, only 400 pating customers through the turnstilles on Tuesday, an ailing football club etc
In your hour of desperation you still have a pop at Wxm. Just like on Football Focus all those years ago at the Fans Utd thing they still showed two a***oles banging a drum at the game singing 'we hate Wxm'

You should have chanelled your energies into action instead of havinga pop at us all the time

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post Nov 27 2009, 12:47 AM
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You'll sneak out of it. You always do. You'll have the deadline extended or something.
The Football league doesn't want the club. they want vaughan.


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post Nov 27 2009, 12:49 AM
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You were saying about some decent goats Ron?


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post Nov 27 2009, 12:55 AM
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You were saying about some decent goats Ron?


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The biggest differance here is
SV hasnt mismanaged anything-its all gone perfectly to plan,he hasnt done it out of spite either,we were just unlucky enough to be for sale when a large amount of money needed "sorting"
Money "sorted" its just a case of removing any links.

We are as dead as Barrow were.

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QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:08 AM) *
well it is what have we done to stop him. That's why Wr**h*m survived becuase they fought to the final hour to save thei club


Give your head a shake. There's been plenty said and done in terms of fighting for the Club, but ultimately when one man owns 100% of the business and doesn't want to give it up for its true value when asked, what's the answer? I'm pretty sure you don't have it.

We've not been helped by any of the footballing authorities either, sad to say - they seemed to have us over a barrel in the Summer with us not allowed to play, then backed down when it was plainly obvious that we'd end up with the current situation a few months down the line.

Incidentally, it's amazing how one idiot bin-dipper can come close to eroding any goodwill you might have built up towards Goat supporters on here over the past few weeks. I wouldn't want to wish our past twenty years on any other football club or right-minded fans, but just sometimes...
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QUOTE (thewayneinspain @ Nov 27 2009, 12:33 AM) *
outside looking in... the scenario is very different from Wr**h*m's.

so it's impossible to judge chester fans against Wr**h*m fans.

You've never had enough unity, because SV had divided you way before it was possible to try and force him out...and that isn't your fault...that's Vaughan's

There is no time for an inquest... there's only time to find common ground, try to get rid of SV and making sure you're playing us for a valentines day re-run in 2010.

re: hamilton - first time we met, he came to meet me with a kosh in his hand..


Far from me to agree with a Wr**h*m fan, but that's exactly how it's been. There are still the odd ones who still blindly support SV no matter what he's done. At least those who are on his payroll.....

And THOSE are the ones who are trying to divide us. I urge those who have the best interests of the club to put the WUM's on their ignore list and let the rest of us get on with trying to assist in rebuilding the remnants of our beloved club.
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Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.


well it is what have we done to stop him. That's why Wr**h*m survived becuase they fought to the final hour to save thei club


Wr**h*m did well to overcome their problems but let's get one thing straight, they haven't had to come through anything like the amount of adversity that we've faced over the last twenty years. They never lost their ground, they never spent two years in exile, they've only been out the league once, they've never been run by a deranged American egotist and they've never had to deal with anyone like SV

Hamilton was a joke, we'd have hassled him out of Chester like we did with Smith. Vaughan on the other hand is a dangerous and malicious man motivated by spite

Wrectum would've always been bailed out by the Welsh F.A.!


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A big difference with Hamilton was that his "plans" for the club were fairly easy to see through.

With Vaughan: no-one ever quite knew why he was doing it. Only now can you see him desperately prevent anyone else looking at the books do you see what he has been doing.

Hamilton was also a businessman. He bought a company with the intention of asset stripping it and taking his cut. Thousands of businessmen up and down the country do the same. Keeping the order book but firing the workforce etc.

Vaughan is in a different league. People are scared of him. Genuinely scared of him. Whether from the NLP, a Shrewsbury Town striker, or even a chap from an internet messageboard with a microphone. People are intimidated. People are scared of the consequences.

And Vaughan split the fanbase. Think back earlier this year, to that youtube video of the guy at Vaughan's meeting slagging off the trust. Remember his tone of voice? His body language? Who was he, Kevin someone? It is people like him who have been screws in the coffin of CCFC. Not just by brown-nosing Vaughan but by belittling and destabilising the attempts of genuine fans to build something better, make a go of it. Wr**h*m did have their issues within the Trust but Dismal Jimmy and all that was united, and no-one ever really knew who was doing what so no-one could be hunted down and intimidated.

I wish that video was still available. That will haunt him until his grave. He got it so, so wrong and the cost will be his club.

Any CCFC wanting to stand up to Vaughan has had to get through his little minnions first. Idiots the lots of them. Martyn Blue et al, screws in the coffin of CCFC.

The only way forward in Chester Football Club owned by a supporter's trust and starting lower down the leagues. At every level up to the conference your stadium will be a tremendous asset. Add in a bit of volunteering and some community spirit and you will find your way back. Look at Aldershot. And what you have is a body of expertise to draw on, clubs like AFC Telford have literally had nothing, zero, supporter's trust, council on side, stadium safe, back you come.

Scarborough etc disappeared because they lost the ground. The stadium is a major stumbling block now (in terms of finances etc), but will prove to be part of your recovery.
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Bang on the money, Throbber. Worries me that we've got opposition supporters on here who speak more sense and have a more balanced view of what's gone down here than some of our own.

It's Kevin Wilding you're referring to in the middle of your post, incidentally. Has he been heard from since that impassioned speech in the Blues Bar after the not-a-protest? He claimed no-one on Deva Chat could tell him what Vaughan had done wrong. I really hope by now he's seen with his own eyes exactly what Vaughan has done wrong. If tomorrow proves to be our last game of the season - or even if we've already played our last game on Tuesday - it's the club he's put years of his life into supporting that disappears from the league table. The blame for that has to lie squarely with the Vaughan family and it's a crying shame for absolutely all of us, no matter how long it's taken to see it.
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A big difference with Hamilton was that his "plans" for the club were fairly easy to see through.

With Vaughan: no-one ever quite knew why he was doing it. Only now can you see him desperately prevent anyone else looking at the books do you see what he has been doing.

Hamilton was also a businessman. He bought a company with the intention of asset stripping it and taking his cut. Thousands of businessmen up and down the country do the same. Keeping the order book but firing the workforce etc.

Vaughan is in a different league. People are scared of him. Genuinely scared of him. Whether from the NLP, a Shrewsbury Town striker, or even a chap from an internet messageboard with a microphone. People are intimidated. People are scared of the consequences.

And Vaughan split the fanbase. Think back earlier this year, to that youtube video of the guy at Vaughan's meeting slagging off the trust. Remember his tone of voice? His body language? Who was he, Kevin someone? It is people like him who have been screws in the coffin of CCFC. Not just by brown-nosing Vaughan but by belittling and destabilising the attempts of genuine fans to build something better, make a go of it. Wr**h*m did have their issues within the Trust but Dismal Jimmy and all that was united, and no-one ever really knew who was doing what so no-one could be hunted down and intimidated.

I wish that video was still available. That will haunt him until his grave. He got it so, so wrong and the cost will be his club.

Any CCFC wanting to stand up to Vaughan has had to get through his little minnions first. Idiots the lots of them. Martyn Blue et al, screws in the coffin of CCFC.

The only way forward in Chester Football Club owned by a supporter's trust and starting lower down the leagues. At every level up to the conference your stadium will be a tremendous asset. Add in a bit of volunteering and some community spirit and you will find your way back. Look at Aldershot. And what you have is a body of expertise to draw on, clubs like AFC Telford have literally had nothing, zero, supporter's trust, council on side, stadium safe, back you come.

Scarborough etc disappeared because they lost the ground. The stadium is a major stumbling block now (in terms of finances etc), but will prove to be part of your recovery.



Thanks for your post.

Looking in - from the outside - is usually the most valid view.

I agree with your post - including the ability for the fans (via CFU backed by Supporters Direct) to bring about a phoenix club should Mr Vaughan take Chester City Football Club away from us.

I don't necessarily agree with highlighting individual's names as we've all harboured passions for our club in many ways - and I would forget all that has gone before if those same fans felt that they could become members of CFU and were numbered amongst the majority just looking for a community-focussed club to follow. Some, of course, would not feel that it was their club should the phoenix become real - again, that's their opinion and they are entitled to it.

Wouldn't it look positive to the outside world, if this club failed, and CFU approached the local authorities, footballing authorities, potential sponsors and backers, local schools, even the bank with a membership of 1500 plus fans committed to the cause?

It is so important to become a number - a membership number on the CFU list - for these reasons.

If you haven't signed up - it's only a fiver - please do. Each membership pack sent out included a spare application for membership. Please try to encourage your fellow fan to fill it in and send it back with a fiver. It's not a lot to pay - but could be worth an absolute fortune in representing CFU at crucial meetings that will undoubtedly be held in the future, whether that be in the near or distant future.

The new committee of CFU consists of passionate, hardworking and very professional fans of this club - the least they deserve for putting their heads above the parapet is your backing.





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Nice thinking batman.... my brother used to be a big CCFC fan but since all the shizzle went down he has found other things to do....

When my members park turns up i'll make sure he gets the spare application form along with a cheque for £5 made out to CFU for Christmas biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (trueblueseal @ Nov 27 2009, 12:04 AM) *
Clubs finished, it's as much our fault as it is SV's

I will not being going to another game for the rest of the season and I urge all city fans to do the same don't give the Vaughans your money

there should be less than 400 at the deva on Saturday to show what this club has been reduced to


No, it really isn't.


well it is what have we done to stop him. That's why Wr**h*m survived becuase they fought to the final hour to save thei club


Wr**h*m did well to overcome their problems but let's get one thing straight, they haven't had to come through anything like the amount of adversity that we've faced over the last twenty years. They never lost their ground, they never spent two years in exile, they've only been out the league once, they've never been run by a deranged American egotist and they've never had to deal with anyone like SV

Hamilton was a joke, we'd have hassled him out of Chester like we did with Smith. Vaughan on the other hand is a dangerous and malicious man motivated by spite



Hamilton was not a joke far from it and they at least made there point to him on mass.
Since this whole situation started where people seen what was happening I have in all the games I have been too not seen a group of fans get in the stand and confront him.
Why not??
You can not go around saying we are just worn out from all the crap we have had , what you are really saying is you are Scared of the man and dont want trouble and that is what it boils down too.
Its easy to call on here but where are these people in the ground why are they not shouting and balling at him to get their points across.
I know that people will say buut the stewards will kick us out, well if there was as many on here making the point at the ground then there work would be cut out would it not.


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