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post Aug 8 2009, 07:52 PM
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Everyone has a pop at SV and I can see why, but will the fans and the council take any responsibility for the club being in this situation or do you see it as all SV's fault?
SV would have matched the money put in by fans and then some, but certain fans chose to boycott, and pick fights with the club at any opportunity
Could the fans have done more?
Could the council have done more?
We all know SV could have done more
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post Aug 8 2009, 07:54 PM
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post Aug 8 2009, 07:55 PM
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have you still not grasped what vaughan has been doing?


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post Aug 8 2009, 07:56 PM
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The point is that if others had put money into the club then this would have been mismanged like the rest of the club!

Also don't forget SVs own comment that "I can fund this club without help as long as I want"!

Would you trust SV with your money Roman?


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post Aug 8 2009, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (GaroldBlue @ Aug 8 2009, 09:55 PM) *
have you still not grasped what vaughan has been doing?

EVERYONE who still likes Vaughan must be deluded, mental and dumb angry.gif angry.gif
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post Aug 8 2009, 07:58 PM
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Could the fans have done more?


I think that's a fair point Roman. The fans could have offered to clean the stadium and saved poor old SV 11 grand a month. (or was at 11k a week??)


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post Aug 8 2009, 08:00 PM
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your missing the point, there are numerous threads about how SV has mismanaged the club but do the fans take any responsibility for the situation we are in could 'WE' all of done a bit more?
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post Aug 8 2009, 08:01 PM
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You are speaking in the past tense Bob or "Roman", is there something we need to know?


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post Aug 8 2009, 08:03 PM
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I think we as fans have been a little slow in realising the true threat of SV. The point at which we could have made a difference was when he came in. We could have lobbied the FA then and said - look what this fella has done to Barrow, how can you allow him to take over at another club. Unfortunately we were just so desperate to get rid of the loon that was Coco that we didn't heed the warnings.


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post Aug 8 2009, 08:04 PM
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Not sure what I am writing in at the moment as I think SV's desperately wants out he is stuck between a rock and a hard place
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post Aug 8 2009, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (Charfield Blue @ Aug 8 2009, 09:03 PM) *
I think we as fans have been a little slow in realising the true threat of SV. The point at which we could have made a difference was when he came in. We could have lobbied the FA then and said - look what this fella has done to Barrow, how can you allow him to take over at another club. Unfortunately we were just so desperate to get rid of the loon that was Coco that we didn't heed the warnings.


I don't think that was the point for me when it started to go wrong was when MW left the club on the eve of the Notts County game
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post Aug 8 2009, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE (Roman @ Aug 8 2009, 09:04 PM) *
Not sure what I am writing in at the moment as I think SV's desperately wants out he is stuck between a rock and a hard place


Roman, tell SV to put the club up for sale at a reasonable price and listen to offers like he should have done last time!


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post Aug 8 2009, 08:09 PM
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I don't think that was the point for me when it started to go wrong was when MW left the club on the eve of the Notts County game


Of course that was the point when it started to go wrong for "Us" and that's when we started to wake up. But the fact is there was always going to be a Notts County moment. Don't forget SV also ploughed money into Barrow at the start and had success. But why did we think he loved CCFC or any other football club when he had been willing to see another go to the wall?


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post Aug 8 2009, 08:09 PM
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Not sure what I am writing in at the moment as I think SV's desperately wants out he is stuck between a rock and a hard place


Roman, tell SV to put the club up for sale at a reasonable price and listen to offers like he should have done last time!


What would you call a reasonable price? and if you put lets say 3 million in what would you expect to get back?
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post Aug 8 2009, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (Roman @ Aug 8 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Everyone has a pop at SV and I can see why, but will the fans and the council take any responsibility for the club being in this situation or do you see it as all SV's fault?
SV would have matched the money put in by fans and then some, but certain fans chose to boycott, and pick fights with the club at any opportunity
Could the fans have done more?
Could the council have done more?
We all know SV could have done more



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post Aug 8 2009, 08:12 PM
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A reasonable price is about £100k for a debt free club! Look where we are!!!


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post Aug 8 2009, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (Charfield Blue @ Aug 8 2009, 09:09 PM) *
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I don't think that was the point for me when it started to go wrong was when MW left the club on the eve of the Notts County game


Of course that was the point when it started to go wrong for "Us" and that's when we started to wake up. But the fact is there was always going to be a Notts County moment. Don't forget SV also ploughed money into Barrow at the start and had success. But why did we think he loved CCFC or any other football club when he had been willing to see another go to the wall?

I personally think SV seen us a better way of making money first all all we were a City he thought we would be a quick fix and could attract bigger gates if we started winning.
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post Aug 8 2009, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Roman @ Aug 8 2009, 09:09 PM) *
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QUOTE (Roman @ Aug 8 2009, 09:04 PM) *
Not sure what I am writing in at the moment as I think SV's desperately wants out he is stuck between a rock and a hard place


Roman, tell SV to put the club up for sale at a reasonable price and listen to offers like he should have done last time!


What would you call a reasonable price? and if you put lets say 3 million in what would you expect to get back?


A better administrator could calculate a companies true value, not including fake loans to other companies!

If SV really wants out then there are ways this could happen, the truth is he doesn't want to!


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post Aug 8 2009, 08:14 PM
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What would you call a reasonable price? and if you put lets say 3 million in what would you expect to get back?


It's got fook all to do with what's been put in (or more accurately through) it about what it's worth. Let's say 3M has been put through CCFC - that 3M has been wasted. At the moment you are buying what will be a Blue Square North side, owing 1M to the tax man, who don't own the land the club stands on, with 250 season ticket holders.


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post Aug 8 2009, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (Cestrian @ Aug 8 2009, 08:54 PM) *
Two words for you Bob.....

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QUOTE (Roman @ Aug 8 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Everyone has a pop at SV and I can see why, but will the fans and the council take any responsibility for the club being in this situation or do you see it as all SV's fault?
SV would have matched the money put in by fans and then some, but certain fans chose to boycott, and pick fights with the club at any opportunity
Could the fans have done more?
Could the council have done more?
We all know SV could have done more



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This is why divvy chat is pathetic for daring to put a little bit of the blame on the fans and council, I know if I respond in a similar fashion my thread will be taken off and a ban will occur.
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post Aug 8 2009, 08:18 PM
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It doesn't really matter how much has gone in to the club that money is lost. As it stands the club is worth less than he paid to buy it back and if he was to get that back he'd be doing well.


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post Aug 8 2009, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (Roman @ Aug 8 2009, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Cestrian @ Aug 8 2009, 08:54 PM) *
Two words for you Bob.....

F**K OFF!!



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QUOTE (Roman @ Aug 8 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Everyone has a pop at SV and I can see why, but will the fans and the council take any responsibility for the club being in this situation or do you see it as all SV's fault?
SV would have matched the money put in by fans and then some, but certain fans chose to boycott, and pick fights with the club at any opportunity
Could the fans have done more?
Could the council have done more?
We all know SV could have done more



Worst poster on deva chat you talk s**t


This is why divvy chat is pathetic for daring to put a little bit of the blame on the fans and council, I know if I respond in a similar fashion my thread will be taken off and a ban will occur.



Why would the council help he didn't pay the F**King rent and what more could the fans do? it was fans like you who were to blame then for blindly supporting him whatever he did
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post Aug 8 2009, 08:20 PM
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I asked in the past how much did SV give Coco for the club. It's now worth less than what he paid - that's the reality.


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QUOTE (Roman @ Aug 8 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Everyone has a pop at SV and I can see why, but will the fans and the council take any responsibility for the club being in this situation or do you see it as all SV's fault?
SV would have matched the money put in by fans and then some, but certain fans chose to boycott, and pick fights with the club at any opportunity
Could the fans have done more?
Could the council have done more?
We all know SV could have done more


You are a prat.
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post Aug 8 2009, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (Roman @ Aug 8 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Everyone has a pop at SV and I can see why, but will the fans and the council take any responsibility for the club being in this situation or do you see it as all SV's fault?
SV would have matched the money put in by fans and then some, but certain fans chose to boycott, and pick fights with the club at any opportunity
Could the fans have done more?
Could the council have done more?
We all know SV could have done more


What a stupid post, Fooking idiot !!


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