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post Sep 1 2007, 06:17 PM
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according to this on rotherhams footymad site

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Referee Graham Salisbury was blasted by Rotherham boss Mark Robins after The Millers missed their chance of leapfrogging high flyers Chester.

With seconds to go Chester's Kevin Ellison blocked a header from Ian Sharps with his hands and sparked a barrage of appeals from Rotherham players. But the referee waved away the spot kick claims and left Robins fuming.

Instead, both sides preserved their unbeaten start to the season but Rotherham had the better late chances to claim the points.

After a dismal goalless first half Rotherham went ahead when striker Chris O'Grady notched up his second goal of the season when he crashed in a fierce left foot shot after 56 minutes after springing the offside trap.

Chester, managed by former Millmoor goal ace Bobby Williamson, should have been level soon afterwards but defender Ian Sharps blocked a goalbound shot from John Murphy with his knee after Andy Warrington had pulled off a point blank save, injuring his shoulder in the process.

But the Blues finally grabbed the equaliser they deserved after 72 minutes when 17 year old Kevin Roberts, who was on as a second half sub, grabbed his first career goal.


The youngster, currently being tracked by Bolton and Spurs, powered a header that beat keeper Andy Warrnington but hit the post and rebounded kindly, allowing Roberts to head into the open goal.

Rotherham provided all the late drama and had the chances to claim the winner even before the last gasp penalty appeal. But Chester keeper John Danby was in defiant form pulling off a string of impressive late stops.

The best of the chances fell to O'Grady, Harrison and Stephen Brogan who all produced shots that could have seen Rotherham overtake
Chester but for the the efforts of the agile Danby, who also tipped over a Coughlan header at the death.

Mark Robins said of the controversy: "It was a definite penalty and we are very disappointed. For me from where I was there was no doubt and the lads all thought it was a penalty.

"He has put his arms up towards the ball. The referee said the incident was ball to hand but how can that be when he was moving his hands across your face and above his head?

"I'm really disappointed that we didn't take the three points but I think we looked sluggish throughout the game."

Chester manager Bobby Williamson diplomatically claimed: "Kevin Ellison told me the ball hit him in the face but I'll reserve my judgement until I've seen the video, players sometimes tell you things and make you into a liar.

"But I think we worked hard and deserved a point. This is a difficult venue to come to and Rotherham will win more here than they lose so we have to be happy with a point."






I Hope we keep hold of him, he looks a really good talent.

as for the penalty, i couldnt see a thing really, there must have been something in it, ive never seen a crowd react so definately as they did

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With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!
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post Sep 1 2007, 06:31 PM
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thought they played the better football and upto the last ten mins we had more chances
we had two cleared off the line so a good draw

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post Sep 1 2007, 06:51 PM
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With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!


Well I don't see how a ball blasted fronm a few yards away is a nailed on pen even if it does hit the hands. The point is we're not 4 points worse off. You could argue we should be 2 points better off after Murphy's perfectly good goal was disallowed first game of the season. Swings and roundabouts.


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QUOTE (Elwood P Dowd @ Sep 1 2007, 07:51 PM) *
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With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!


Well I don't see how a ball blasted from a few yards away is a nailed on pen even if it does hit the hands. The point is we're not 4 points worse off. You could argue we should be 2 points better off after Murphy's perfectly good goal was disallowed first game of the season. Swings and roundabouts.



Murphs goal was a clear push, Dales goal was apparently onside (I don't know the overwhelming evidence has never been seen), today Robins has said Ellisons hands were above his head, once again I'm not sure but there's no point getting to carried away because we could be a lot worse off depending on the officials decisions, we got 3 points at Dale could have been none and 1 point today could have been none so we've 4 points that we may not have, these decisions will turn against us and no doubt some will be all doom and gloom when they do!!
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Bloody hell Ali what are you wittering on about? If we hadn't scored any goals we'd have 2 points. Yeah right so some decisions go for you and some against. We've had plenty go against us already. I don't think anyone is getting too caried away, but we are definitely hard to beat and it's a good start.

And Murphy's goal was not a clear push...it was perfectly fine.


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QUOTE (Ali @ Sep 1 2007, 07:58 PM) *
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QUOTE (Ali @ Sep 1 2007, 07:24 PM) *
With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!


Well I don't see how a ball blasted from a few yards away is a nailed on pen even if it does hit the hands. The point is we're not 4 points worse off. You could argue we should be 2 points better off after Murphy's perfectly good goal was disallowed first game of the season. Swings and roundabouts.



Murphs goal was a clear push, Dales goal was apparently onside (I don't know the overwhelming evidence has never been seen), today Robins has said Ellisons hands were above his head, once again I'm not sure but there's no point getting to carried away because we could be a lot worse off depending on the officials decisions, we got 3 points at Dale could have been none and 1 point today could have been none so we've 4 points that we may not have, these decisions will turn against us and no doubt some will be all doom and gloom when they do!!

When there is some decisions go for us there is doom and gloom anyway but only from you Ali!


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post Sep 1 2007, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (Elwood P Dowd @ Sep 1 2007, 08:31 PM) *
Bloody hell Ali what are you wittering on about? If we hadn't scored any goals we'd have 2 points. Yeah right so some decisions go for you and some against. We've had plenty go against us already. I don't think anyone is getting too carried away, but we are definitely hard to beat and it's a good start.

And Murphy's goal was not a clear push...it was perfectly fine.



That's not what I'm saying dear, I'll try to explain in terms simple enough for youunderstand rolleyes.gif

Murphy fouled the Chesterfield player, I've seen it, he didn't complain about it according to you + 3

Against Dale they scored a goal, I couldn't tell whether it was offside or not, no video footage available - possible 3 points dropped according to me.

Rotherham, you said you couldn't see it, Robbins said he put his hands over his head, potential point dropped.

So if the officials had been worse/better we'd be significantly worse off than we currently are and had we been it would be doom and gloom, it's not and I'm trying to keep peoples feet on the ground is that so bad?!!
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QUOTE (IAN @ Sep 1 2007, 08:39 PM) *
QUOTE (Ali @ Sep 1 2007, 07:58 PM) *
QUOTE (Elwood P Dowd @ Sep 1 2007, 07:51 PM) *
QUOTE (Ali @ Sep 1 2007, 07:24 PM) *
With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!


Well I don't see how a ball blasted from a few yards away is a nailed on pen even if it does hit the hands. The point is we're not 4 points worse off. You could argue we should be 2 points better off after Murphy's perfectly good goal was disallowed first game of the season. Swings and roundabouts.



Murphs goal was a clear push, Dales goal was apparently onside (I don't know the overwhelming evidence has never been seen), today Robins has said Ellisons hands were above his head, once again I'm not sure but there's no point getting to carried away because we could be a lot worse off depending on the officials decisions, we got 3 points at Dale could have been none and 1 point today could have been none so we've 4 points that we may not have, these decisions will turn against us and no doubt some will be all doom and gloom when they do!!

When there is some decisions go for us there is doom and gloom anyway but only from you Ali!



Here we go the alcopops are out, is it so difficult for you to understand that given different circumstance we could be a lot worse off points wise and to keep our feet on the ground is a wise move, especially after KC's tenure??
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I'm trying to keep peoples feet on the ground is that so bad?!!


Of course it isn't, but I prefer to keep people's feet on the ground in a much more simpler way by saying we have only played four games this season.

Your argument can apply to every team in every division, and they all balance themselves out over the course of a season.
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Too many ifs and buts in this thread...

One certain thing, we have 8 points from 4 games.

That is good. Make the most of it smile.gif


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With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!


Ali you have been watching football for donkey's years same as me. It even's itself out in a season as we are all well aware. So for christ's sake enjoy the moment. Chester City are second 4-2-4 second half against Dagenham, 4-3-3 second half against Rotherham when we were drawing both games at half time.
How F**King positive is that. Give the Manager and the team some Bloody credit. Born and bred in Manchester and watched City for 50 odd years, and Chester for 30years I should be suffering more than most, but tonight with a glass of Red in hand and Blackburn to look forward to tomorrow and Crewe on Tuesday Happy Days.
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QUOTE (padraig36 @ Sep 1 2007, 09:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Ali @ Sep 1 2007, 07:24 PM) *
With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!


Ali you have been watching football for donkey's years same as me. It even's itself out in a season as we are all well aware. So for christ's sake enjoy the moment. Chester City are second 4-2-4 second half against Dagenham, 4-3-3 second half against Rotherham when we were drawing both games at half time.
How F**King positive is that. Give the Manager and the team some Bloody credit. Born and bred in Manchester and watched City for 50 odd years, and Chester for 30years I should be suffering more than most, but tonight with a glass of Red in hand and Blackburn to look forward to tomorrow and Crewe on Tuesday Happy Days.


Make that 40 odd years the wine has kicked in!! cityscarf.gif
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Make that 40 odd years the wine has kicked in!! cityscarf.gif

Must be pretty good stuff! biggrin.gif


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Roberts made the difference when he came on, Grant had a shocker, very poor. Surprised that Spurs and Bolton are interested, even we have not really seen alot of him.

Was he part of the youth side that knocked Spurs out of the youth cup last year?


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QUOTE (padraig36 @ Sep 1 2007, 09:25 PM) *
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With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!


Ali you have been watching football for donkey's years same as me. It Even's itself out in a season as we are all well aware. So for Christ's sake enjoy the moment. Chester City are second 4-2-4 second half against Dagenham, 4-3-3 second half against Rotherham when we were drawing both games at half time.
How F**King positive is that. Give the Manager and the team some Bloody credit. Born and bred in Manchester and watched City for 50 odd years, and Chester for 30years I should be suffering more than most, but tonight with a glass of Red in hand and Blackburn to look forward to tomorrow and Crew on Tuesday Happy Days.


Yes it evens itself out and once again I'll remind you that 90% of fans loved KC until it went wrong and then 90% wanted KC out, all you fans berating me now will be bitching later if we don't keep our feet on the ground!!
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With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!


Ali you have been watching football for donkey's years same as me. It Even's itself out in a season as we are all well aware. So for Christ's sake enjoy the moment. Chester City are second 4-2-4 second half against Dagenham, 4-3-3 second half against Rotherham when we were drawing both games at half time.
How F**King positive is that. Give the Manager and the team some Bloody credit. Born and bred in Manchester and watched City for 50 odd years, and Chester for 30years I should be suffering more than most, but tonight with a glass of Red in hand and Blackburn to look forward to tomorrow and Crew on Tuesday Happy Days.


Yes it evens itself out and once again I'll remind you that 90% of fans loved KC until it went wrong and then 90% wanted KC out, all you fans berating me now will be bitching later if we don't keep our feet on the ground!!


Agree but for once be POSITIVE KC is History - Bobby could be the History!! Who knows............
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I just wish city fans would just enjoy the moment instead of looking for negatives,you need luck in football so just enjoy it cityscarf.gif cityscarf.gif cityscarf.gif


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according to this on rotherhams footymad site

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Referee Graham Salisbury was blasted by Rotherham boss Mark Robins after The Millers missed their chance of leapfrogging high flyers Chester.

With seconds to go Chester's Kevin Ellison blocked a header from Ian Sharps with his hands and sparked a barrage of appeals from Rotherham players. But the referee waved away the spot kick claims and left Robins fuming.

Instead, both sides preserved their unbeaten start to the season but Rotherham had the better late chances to claim the points.

After a dismal goalless first half Rotherham went ahead when striker Chris O'Grady notched up his second goal of the season when he crashed in a fierce left foot shot after 56 minutes after springing the offside trap.

Chester, managed by former Millmoor goal ace Bobby Williamson, should have been level soon afterwards but defender Ian Sharps blocked a goalbound shot from John Murphy with his knee after Andy Warrington had pulled off a point blank save, injuring his shoulder in the process.

But the Blues finally grabbed the equaliser they deserved after 72 minutes when 17 year old Kevin Roberts, who was on as a second half sub, grabbed his first career goal.


The youngster, currently being tracked by Bolton and Spurs, powered a header that beat keeper Andy Warrnington but hit the post and rebounded kindly, allowing Roberts to head into the open goal.

Rotherham provided all the late drama and had the chances to claim the winner even before the last gasp penalty appeal. But Chester keeper John Danby was in defiant form pulling off a string of impressive late stops.

The best of the chances fell to O'Grady, Harrison and Stephen Brogan who all produced shots that could have seen Rotherham overtake
Chester but for the the efforts of the agile Danby, who also tipped over a Coughlan header at the death.

Mark Robins said of the controversy: "It was a definite penalty and we are very disappointed. For me from where I was there was no doubt and the lads all thought it was a penalty.

"He has put his arms up towards the ball. The referee said the incident was ball to hand but how can that be when he was moving his hands across your face and above his head?

"I'm really disappointed that we didn't take the three points but I think we looked sluggish throughout the game."

Chester manager Bobby Williamson diplomatically claimed: "Kevin Ellison told me the ball hit him in the face but I'll reserve my judgement until I've seen the video, players sometimes tell you things and make you into a liar.

"But I think we worked hard and deserved a point. This is a difficult venue to come to and Rotherham will win more here than they lose so we have to be happy with a point."






I Hope we keep hold of him, he looks a really good talent.

as for the penalty, i couldnt see a thing really, there must have been something in it, ive never seen a crowd react so definately as they did

If the lad is being tracked by premier clubs make them pay i say they have the money and, the more we get will it not affect what we could spend through income into the club,i hope the lad has a good long contract with us!


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I'm trying to keep peoples feet on the ground is that so bad?!!


Of course it isn't, but I prefer to keep people's feet on the ground in a much more simpler way by saying we have only played four games this season.

Your argument can apply to every team in every division, and they all balance themselves out over the course of a season.


Jesus, break out the bubbly...I agree with Mancot.


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Bloody hell Ali what are you wittering on about? If we hadn't scored any goals we'd have 2 points. Yeah right so some decisions go for you and some against. We've had plenty go against us already. I don't think anyone is getting too carried away, but we are definitely hard to beat and it's a good start.

And Murphy's goal was not a clear push...it was perfectly fine.


Murphy fouled the Chesterfield player, I've seen it, he didn't complain about it according to you + 3



I've seen it as well, numerous times. He didn't foul him. And anyway, I believe the ref said he gave it for an "off the ball incident" did he not? And I have no idea what the "according to you + 3" is all about...have you been on the Stella again?


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Chatting to a bloke on the way back to the car yesterday who was an Everton scout, he was watching someone from Rotherham but couldn't failed to have been impressed by one or two from the Chester side.
He acknowledged Danby's fine performance.

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With level headed specs on that's apparently a goal disallowed for offside that wasn't the week before, and a nailed on pen this week which could see us at least 4 points worse off so as I say feet on the ground please!


Well I don't see how a ball blasted from a few yards away is a nailed on pen even if it does hit the hands. The point is we're not 4 points worse off. You could argue we should be 2 points better off after Murphy's perfectly good goal was disallowed first game of the season. Swings and roundabouts.



Murphs goal was a clear push, Dales goal was apparently onside (I don't know the overwhelming evidence has never been seen), today Robins has said Ellisons hands were above his head, once again I'm not sure but there's no point getting to carried away because we could be a lot worse off depending on the officials decisions, we got 3 points at Dale could have been none and 1 point today could have been none so we've 4 points that we may not have, these decisions will turn against us and no doubt some will be all doom and gloom when they do!!

When there is some decisions go for us there is doom and gloom anyway but only from you Ali!



Here we go the alcopops are out, is it so difficult for you to understand that given different circumstance we could be a lot worse off points wise and to keep our feet on the ground is a wise move, especially after KC's tenure??


Ali
If you had gone instead of sitting infront of your pc then you would have noticed that
Murphys drive was over the line when it struck the defender lyiong in the goal,Ellison did raise his hands to protect his face from about two foot away
remember we lost three points at shrewsbury last year when they gave the pen when it was clearly ball to hand
so just relax and enjoy the fact we are still unbeaten
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I read a lot of complaining on here last year about the penalty the Shrewsbury got at gay meadow when the ball was blasted at one of our defenders from not far away. It's natural protection, never a penalty.


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Roberts is a great young talent that hopefully we will keep.

But if a top side comes in for him with a good fee I think we would accept.
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