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post Nov 24 2014, 08:55 PM
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Wrexham are to appeal against Moult's straight red card on Saturday. The appeal will be heard by the Welsh FA who are... putting it mildly ... more sympathetic than the English FA when it comes to dealing with Welsh clubs who play in the English leagues.

It's time this loop-hole was closed once and for all. If Welsh teams want to play in the English leagues they should have to agree to submit to the same disciplinary body as everyone else. Otherwise, it's not a level playing field.

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post Nov 24 2014, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (3mm @ Nov 24 2014, 08:55 PM) *
Wrexham are to appeal against Moult's straight red card on Saturday. The appeal will be heard by the Welsh FA who are... putting it mildly ... more sympathetic than the English FA when it comes to dealing with Welsh clubs who play in the English leagues.

It's time this loop-hole was closed once and for all. If Welsh teams want to play in the English leagues they should have to agree to submit to the same disciplinary body as everyone else. Otherwise, it's not a level playing field.

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One minute in, rightly or wrongly sent off the incident happened right in front of ref -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuVSdSjctI
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post Nov 24 2014, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (a view from outside @ Nov 24 2014, 09:09 PM) *
QUOTE (3mm @ Nov 24 2014, 08:55 PM) *
Wrexham are to appeal against Moult's straight red card on Saturday. The appeal will be heard by the Welsh FA who are... putting it mildly ... more sympathetic than the English FA when it comes to dealing with Welsh clubs who play in the English leagues.

It's time this loop-hole was closed once and for all. If Welsh teams want to play in the English leagues they should have to agree to submit to the same disciplinary body as everyone else. Otherwise, it's not a level playing field.

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One minute in, rightly or wrongly sent off the incident happened right in front of ref -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuVSdSjctI


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post Nov 24 2014, 09:29 PM
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Their new £350K pitch looks a bit ropey in the latter stages of that clip
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post Nov 24 2014, 10:09 PM
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Best 2mins 30 secs of online viewing all all day. Ashton's defending for Alty's second is comical, i hope we punish him again in the return game the guttersnipe. Also the commentator near the end sounds like he is about to reach for his revolver. biggrin.gif


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post Nov 24 2014, 10:49 PM
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Never a straight red but funny nontheless
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post Nov 24 2014, 11:26 PM
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Never a red but the goals conceded were comical and long may it continue
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post Nov 25 2014, 12:19 AM
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It's a harsh red, but there's no real grounds to overturn it. It was a foul and the ref had a good view of it, and he thought it was worth a red card.
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post Nov 25 2014, 06:56 AM
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Some of the Nuggets on Dead Fashion seem pretty confident the red card will be rescinded. Mind you, on another thread there are calls for Tony Pullis to be appointed Manager, so once again you've got to question their grip on reality.


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post Nov 25 2014, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE (Marty Funkhouser @ Nov 25 2014, 06:56 AM) *
Some of the Nuggets on Dead Fashion seem pretty confident the red card will be rescinded. Mind you, on another thread there are calls for Tony Pullis to be appointed Manager, so once again you've got to question their grip on reality.


It probably will be, knowing the Welsh FA, but it shouldn't be. Cards should only be overturned if it's obvious that there wasn't a foul, or the ref sent off the wrong player. If the ref decides a foul is worth a red card, that's his qualified opinion and the authorities shouldn't undermine it.
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post Nov 25 2014, 07:18 AM
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That commentator is hilarious! Love his reaction to altrincham goals


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post Nov 25 2014, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (Treeny @ Nov 24 2014, 09:14 PM) *
QUOTE (a view from outside @ Nov 24 2014, 09:09 PM) *
QUOTE (3mm @ Nov 24 2014, 08:55 PM) *
Wrexham are to appeal against Moult's straight red card on Saturday. The appeal will be heard by the Welsh FA who are... putting it mildly ... more sympathetic than the English FA when it comes to dealing with Welsh clubs who play in the English leagues.

It's time this loop-hole was closed once and for all. If Welsh teams want to play in the English leagues they should have to agree to submit to the same disciplinary body as everyone else. Otherwise, it's not a level playing field.

BBC Football


One minute in, rightly or wrongly sent off the incident happened right in front of ref -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuVSdSjctI


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One of the goats in work says Moult has been sent off already this season, so looking at least at a 4 match ban if upheld.
I thought any evidence presented has to show that no offence took place to warrant the red, if they are using that clip, the view is mostly obscured by the ref when the tackle was made, i think they may go with the refs view on this as he has a good view of what actually happened.
Unless of course as 3mm points out it is dealt with by the Welsh FA.


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post Nov 25 2014, 12:01 PM
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It will be interesting to see if the Welsh FA overturn it, especially as a 4 game ban would see him miss their 2nd round FA Cup tie.


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post Nov 25 2014, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (3mm @ Nov 25 2014, 12:01 PM) *
It will be interesting to see if the Welsh FA overturn it, especially as a 4 game ban would see him miss their 2nd round FA Cup tie.


As expected:
Top scorer Louis Moult won his appeal and free to play for #WXM150 at Kidderminster tonight! No 4 game ban


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post Nov 25 2014, 03:27 PM
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Foregone conclusion. Every time it happens the Welsh make themselves look like a right bunch of cheats. It's time it was stopped, or if they want to be governed by the FAW, they should go and play in Wales.


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post Nov 25 2014, 03:30 PM
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goddamn goats. always banging on about their history and prestige....then the minute things dont go their way they run to daddy

their in the english football league when it suits and faw when it doesnt
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post Nov 25 2014, 03:41 PM
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I'd love to see some statistics on how often the FAW overturn red cards for the Welsh teams in the English league.

They even overturned this one so that the player could play in the 2008 FA Cup Final.

It's outrageous. The Welsh FA has a vested interest in Wrexham ahead of any other club in our division, so it's not an independent decision. It's like us appealing to the Cheshire FA.
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Looking at the FA's suspension list the following CFC players are 1 booking away from a suspension - Charnock, Heneghan, Hobson, James and Kay. The cutoff date for imposing a I match ban is the 30th November.
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QUOTE (a view from outside @ Nov 25 2014, 11:09 AM) *
Looking at the FA's suspension list the following CFC players are 1 booking away from a suspension - Charnock, Heneghan, Hobson, James and Kay. The cutoff date for imposing a I match ban is the 30th November.

Let's hope for good behaviour in the next two games.


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post Nov 25 2014, 11:58 PM
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Having looked at that Moult challenge a dozen times I can't see how it was a red myself, and it certainly didn't look deliberate (anything but in fact). That said, I agree 100% that an appeal should be dealt with by the same FA governing body of the league that a team plays in and it is bizarre that these appeals go to the Welsh FA. I'm not one of those against Wrexham and other Welsh clubs playing in the 'English' league as they have always done so and so rightly ignored the completely artificial (and political) formation of the League of Wales and the Welsh FA 20-odd years ago, but the current rules when it comes to appeals are just madness!


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post Nov 26 2014, 11:37 AM
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It is a complete joke that the Welsh FA are allowed to overturn red cards when the team is playing in an English league. How on earth do the FA allow it to happen?
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post Nov 26 2014, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (XWWB @ Nov 25 2014, 03:41 PM) *
I'd love to see some statistics on how often the FAW overturn red cards for the Welsh teams in the English league.

They even overturned this one so that the player could play in the 2008 FA Cup Final.

It's outrageous. The Welsh FA has a vested interest in Wrexham ahead of any other club in our division, so it's not an independent decision. It's like us appealing to the Cheshire FA.

On what possible grounds could that be overturned? Amazing!
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