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post Nov 29 2012, 03:51 PM
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Now then, lets just have a look at this shall we?

1800 (give or take exact fugure) is our lowest ever attendance at a league game as Chester FC.

Wednesday night with a game on Saturday maybe, but we must have had this before in the 2 years previously and against much weaker opposition.

There were no 'Kids for free' to boost the attendance, and it was the Homecoming of Ben Mills.

Surely this is of great concern.

Wasn't the whole idea to be pushing for gates of 3,000 in this league? What with the better quality of football on show?

The whole ethos and idea of the club's rebirth was to rebuild the attendances and yet here we are, barely 3 months into the season, on top of the table and without having had a home game for weeks, not even breaking 2000.

Yes, midweek games are often lower than Saturday attendances, but you only have to look at past years and note we never dropped this low.

Concerning, not worth getting over dramatic about either in a sense of 'oh my god so negative etc' or 'we're doomed', just worth a reasonable forum debate (remember them)

Has the club lost its marketing mojo? are people being priced out at £14 especially if 2 games in a week? Is it part of a great disillusionment with the club over recent dealings? is it all the fault of the Pies? biggrin.gif

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post Nov 29 2012, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (iandyChesterCity @ Nov 29 2012, 03:51 PM) *
Now then, lets just have a look at this shall we?

1800 (give or take exact fugure) is our lowest ever attendance at a league game as Chester FC.

Wednesday night with a game on Saturday maybe, but we must have had this before in the 2 years previously and against much weaker opposition.

There were no 'Kids for free' to boost the attendance, and it was the Homecoming of Ben Mills.

Surely this is of great concern.

Wasn't the whole idea to be pushing for gates of 3,000 in this league? What with the better quality of football on show?

The whole ethos and idea of the club's rebirth was to rebuild the attendances and yet here we are, barely 3 months into the season, on top of the table and without having had a home game for weeks, not even breaking 2000.

Yes, midweek games are often lower than Saturday attendances, but you only have to look at past years and note we never dropped this low.

Concerning, not worth getting over dramatic about either in a sense of 'oh my god so negative etc' or 'we're doomed', just worth a reasonable forum debate (remember them)

Has the club lost its marketing mojo? are people being priced out at £14 especially if 2 games in a week? Is it part of a great disillusionment with the club over recent dealings? is it all the fault of the Pies? biggrin.gif

Seriously though...

SH*TE atmosphere, no away fans to add any atmosphere, constant fookin moaning from all around when things dont go according to plan (its like being at old trafford!!), queuing in the blues bar, price to get in, queuing after for hours to leave the ground, women appearing at the match (whats that all about biggrin.gif )you name it could be a reason....


for me, much prefer away games


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post Nov 29 2012, 04:01 PM
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Has the club lost its marketing mojo? are people being priced out at £14 especially if 2 games in a week?


These points are the exact reasons, in my opinion, that we are not capitalising on floating fans and new fans.

I mentioned it in a previous thread before - apart from online and in the local papers, it's pretty difficult to know when games are, and that's coming from a long term fan, so imagine for those who have never been, or only been a couple of times. They need it shoved in their faces around Town, on the side of buses etc etc.

Then there is the price - £14 is too dear, plain and simple, for this standard of football. I know personally it was a choice between last nights game or Saturdays to attend as £30+ is a lot for 2 games of football inside of a week (luckily, I'll be taking my nephew on Saturday as I found out received free tickets in school - good work).

I don't see why the club doesn't do that all the time - bring an under 10 and get your admission half price etc.

It all depends what the club wants - I'd much prefer to see arses on seats then spending a thousands on other aspects, but that's just me.


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post Nov 29 2012, 04:10 PM
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Matches Highest Lowest Total Average
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OK we were a little below last seasons low but we have another 14 games to go. The gates will undoubtedly rise if we are in a promotion run in so DONT panic. Why are negatives always looked for? Enjoy the ride.
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1740 against AFC Fylde our first season cityscarf.gif


Two parallels connect the two games. Both were cold nights with live football on TV, champions league when we played Fylde in a top of the table clash, and Wigan/city in the PL last night.
The conclusion to be drawn is that we take a massive hit from competing with live televised football. Live TV matches should never be allowed to clash with scheduled league fixtures.
They have Saturday evenings, Sundays, Mondays for PL games and Thursdays for European games. The FA should act in the interests of the MAJORITY of their membership and stop it happening, but Id bet my life that they wont!
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post Nov 29 2012, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (I O CITY CITY I O @ Nov 29 2012, 04:02 PM) *
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Has the club lost its marketing mojo? are people being priced out at £14 especially if 2 games in a week?


These points are the exact reasons, in my opinion, that we are not capitalising on floating fans and new fans.

I mentioned it in a previous thread before - apart from online and in the local papers, it's pretty difficult to know when games are, and that's coming from a long term fan, so imagine for those who have never been, or only been a couple of times. They need it shoved in their faces around Town, on the side of buses etc etc.

Then there is the price - £14 is too dear, plain and simple, for this standard of football. I know personally it was a choice between last nights game or Saturdays to attend as £30+ is a lot for 2 games of football inside of a week (luckily, I'll be taking my nephew on Saturday as I found out received free tickets in school - good work).

I don't see why the club doesn't do that all the time - bring an under 10 and get your admission half price etc.

It all depends what the club wants - I'd much prefer to see arses on seats then spending a thousands on other aspects, but that's just me.


Interesting point, as a few people i spoke to last week thought this game was scheduled for last wednesday


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post Nov 29 2012, 04:19 PM
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Don't think it's the end of the world just yet, but I'm with iOC. The club just isn't being driven as it was. We've got the best team we've had since reform and the football has been decent(granted its tailed off a bit recently).
Hopefully people will see sense tonight and there will be a shake up of the board. I've said it before but some are getting far too cosy in legends and its all a bit too laboured for me.


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post Nov 29 2012, 04:24 PM
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Agree Mused, i'm not trying to get overly upset about this, but it is a concern as i'd have hoped the drive was to steadily increase attendances and revenues that way. As others have said, filling the exacta makes the experience better for everyone.

After all, if all goes well, next season revenues will need to be high to compete, and we won't be able to do that by just charging the hardcore £18.


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post Nov 29 2012, 04:45 PM
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As I am a season ticket holder, my seat was paid for so as it was a cold night I listened on blues player and kept my old bones warm !!!!! cityscarf.gif
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post Nov 29 2012, 05:08 PM
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I was there last night but with so much excellent coverage of the game and the fact you get a programme and team sheet sent to youre computer it can be more exciting to listen to the commentary than actually be there?
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post Nov 29 2012, 05:16 PM
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the one good thing for me with a low crowd, is people still have the passion to get upset and look for answers, which shows that we still love this club like the fools we are cityscarf.gif


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QUOTE (Hughie Rydens bandaged foot @ Nov 29 2012, 05:08 PM) *
I was there last night but with so much excellent coverage of the game and the fact you get a programme and team sheet sent to youre computer it can be more exciting to listen to the commentary than actually be there?

Surely not? As bad or as good as things get, live football can't be beaten. I can understand in colonels case it's probably the best option, but no excuse for anyone younger than 80. Sports soccer have got some good offers on thermals!


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post Nov 29 2012, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (mused @ Nov 29 2012, 05:17 PM) *
QUOTE (Hughie Rydens bandaged foot @ Nov 29 2012, 05:08 PM) *
I was there last night but with so much excellent coverage of the game and the fact you get a programme and team sheet sent to youre computer it can be more exciting to listen to the commentary than actually be there?

Surely not? As bad or as good as things get, live football can't be beaten. I can understand in colonels case it's probably the best option, but no excuse for anyone younger than 80. Sports soccer have got some good offers on thermals!

Damart is pretty good too. Not the cheapest, but when it's really cold, their stuff works smile.gif


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1800 wasnt disastrous given the circumstances. It did however remind me that, as a fan owned club, we're a long way away from funding a promotion potential full time BSP club.


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Please remember it was also a very bitterly cold night, so most people choose the option to keep warm at home.

Try and remember that going to a football match with temperatures just above freezing is not everyone's cup of tea.
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QUOTE (Thunderchild @ Nov 29 2012, 05:36 PM) *
Please remember it was also a very bitterly cold night, so most people choose the option to keep warm at home.

Try and remember that going to a football match with temperatures just above freezing is not everyone's cup of tea.

For those reasons and the cost I gave it a miss last night. I'm afraid the opposition did not motivate me to get out of the house with the little one in tow at all, despite giving it some thought and saying to him I might go. The final straw was thinking of paying £14 plus £3 for him and £10 in diesel, for the privilege of watching us against Corby in freezing cold weather while the Mrs went to local superstores spending as well for equality reasons. It's all about whether you feel that is value for money on a limited family budget, and it didn't inspire me in the end.

We really need to have more cheaper offers like Workington for some games as the general economics of a lot of people are being challenged more and more lately. It's also the only way continue to build up the fanbase, I have a feeling this is faltering despite continued success on the field.


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QUOTE (CO2 @ Nov 29 2012, 05:01 PM) *
QUOTE (iandyChesterCity @ Nov 29 2012, 03:51 PM) *
Now then, lets just have a look at this shall we?

1800 (give or take exact fugure) is our lowest ever attendance at a league game as Chester FC.

Wednesday night with a game on Saturday maybe, but we must have had this before in the 2 years previously and against much weaker opposition.

There were no 'Kids for free' to boost the attendance, and it was the Homecoming of Ben Mills.

Surely this is of great concern.

Wasn't the whole idea to be pushing for gates of 3,000 in this league? What with the better quality of football on show?

The whole ethos and idea of the club's rebirth was to rebuild the attendances and yet here we are, barely 3 months into the season, on top of the table and without having had a home game for weeks, not even breaking 2000.

Yes, midweek games are often lower than Saturday attendances, but you only have to look at past years and note we never dropped this low.

Concerning, not worth getting over dramatic about either in a sense of 'oh my god so negative etc' or 'we're doomed', just worth a reasonable forum debate (remember them)

Has the club lost its marketing mojo? are people being priced out at £14 especially if 2 games in a week? Is it part of a great disillusionment with the club over recent dealings? is it all the fault of the Pies? biggrin.gif

Seriously though...

SH*TE atmosphere, no away fans to add any atmosphere, constant fookin moaning from all around when things dont go according to plan (its like being at old trafford!!), queuing in the blues bar, price to get in, queuing after for hours to leave the ground, women appearing at the match (whats that all about biggrin.gif )you name it could be a reason....


for me, much prefer away games


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Midweek midwinter school night - no young kids/families, no exiles, and in this case no away supporters either. 1,800 is actually a very good attendance iin those circumstances when compared to plenty of other clubs higher up the pyramid than us.


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QUOTE (Fathead The Gladiator @ Nov 29 2012, 07:55 PM) *
QUOTE (Thunderchild @ Nov 29 2012, 05:36 PM) *
Please remember it was also a very bitterly cold night, so most people choose the option to keep warm at home.

Try and remember that going to a football match with temperatures just above freezing is not everyone's cup of tea.

For those reasons and the cost I gave it a miss last night. I'm afraid the opposition did not motivate me to get out of the house with the little one in tow at all, despite giving it some thought and saying to him I might go. The final straw was thinking of paying £14 plus £3 for him and £10 in diesel, for the privilege of watching us against Corby in freezing cold weather while the Mrs went to local superstores spending as well for equality reasons. It's all about whether you feel that is value for money on a limited family budget, and it didn't inspire me in the end.

We really need to have more cheaper offers like Workington for some games as the general economics of a lot of people are being challenged more and more lately. It's also the only way continue to build up the fanbase, I have a feeling this is faltering despite continued success on the field.

i think with out doubt the cost of travelling is forcing many to miss games. If you live more than 20 miles or so from the ground it could cost you as much to travel as it does to get in! Last year when we went to ebsfleet i drove my van and the total cost of fuel alone was £110. I may not have drove the most economicaly but still daft money to watch a game regulaly. At least my two traveling companions put their hands in their pockets and between them mustered £4 . Tight tw@ts. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE (Thunderchild @ Nov 29 2012, 05:36 PM) *
Please remember it was also a very bitterly cold night, so most people choose the option to keep warm at home.

Try and remember that going to a football match with temperatures just above freezing is not everyone's cup of tea.



QUOTE (Fathead The Gladiator @ Nov 29 2012, 06:55 PM) *
QUOTE (Thunderchild @ Nov 29 2012, 05:36 PM) *
Please remember it was also a very bitterly cold night, so most people choose the option to keep warm at home.

Try and remember that going to a football match with temperatures just above freezing is not everyone's cup of tea.

For those reasons and the cost I gave it a miss last night. I'm afraid the opposition did not motivate me to get out of the house with the little one in tow at all, despite giving it some thought and saying to him I might go. The final straw was thinking of paying £14 plus £3 for him and £10 in diesel, for the privilege of watching us against Corby in freezing cold weather while the Mrs went to local superstores spending as well for equality reasons. It's all about whether you feel that is value for money on a limited family budget, and it didn't inspire me in the end.

We really need to have more cheaper offers like Workington for some games as the general economics of a lot of people are being challenged more and more lately. It's also the only way continue to build up the fanbase, I have a feeling this is faltering despite continued success on the field.


Its easy to forget what some people have to go through to get there on a winter night
I was working at the other side of Coventry yesterday and made it home in time but could easily have missed it on another day with traffic of something else
And quite a few people are self employed and to sit there in artic conditions risks catching a cold or worse and having to have unpaid time of work
All these things count when deciding whether or not to go
And full price against Corby (No disrespect against Corby) but its a lot of money with a Saturday match coming up and a trip to Brackley


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QUOTE (Sideshow Bob @ Nov 29 2012, 07:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Thunderchild @ Nov 29 2012, 05:36 PM) *
Please remember it was also a very bitterly cold night, so most people choose the option to keep warm at home.

Try and remember that going to a football match with temperatures just above freezing is not everyone's cup of tea.



QUOTE (Fathead The Gladiator @ Nov 29 2012, 06:55 PM) *
QUOTE (Thunderchild @ Nov 29 2012, 05:36 PM) *
Please remember it was also a very bitterly cold night, so most people choose the option to keep warm at home.

Try and remember that going to a football match with temperatures just above freezing is not everyone's cup of tea.

For those reasons and the cost I gave it a miss last night. I'm afraid the opposition did not motivate me to get out of the house with the little one in tow at all, despite giving it some thought and saying to him I might go. The final straw was thinking of paying £14 plus £3 for him and £10 in diesel, for the privilege of watching us against Corby in freezing cold weather while the Mrs went to local superstores spending as well for equality reasons. It's all about whether you feel that is value for money on a limited family budget, and it didn't inspire me in the end.

We really need to have more cheaper offers like Workington for some games as the general economics of a lot of people are being challenged more and more lately. It's also the only way continue to build up the fanbase, I have a feeling this is faltering despite continued success on the field.


Its easy to forget what some people have to go through to get there on a winter night
I was working at the other side of Coventry yesterday and made it home in time but could easily have missed it on another day with traffic of something else
And quite a few people are self employed and to sit there in artic conditions risks catching a cold or worse and having to have unpaid time of work
All these things count when deciding whether or not to go
And full price against Corby (No disrespect against Corby) but its a lot of money with a Saturday match coming up and a trip to Brackley

i do not think 1800 is too bad attendance, when we were higher up the pyramid we sometimes struggled with crowds(granted it may have been the SV effect) but compared to many other clubs who would be delighted at anything like a 1000 let alone 1800

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QUOTE (Sideshow Bob @ Nov 29 2012, 07:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Thunderchild @ Nov 29 2012, 05:36 PM) *
Please remember it was also a very bitterly cold night, so most people choose the option to keep warm at home.

Try and remember that going to a football match with temperatures just above freezing is not everyone's cup of tea.



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QUOTE (Thunderchild @ Nov 29 2012, 05:36 PM) *
Please remember it was also a very bitterly cold night, so most people choose the option to keep warm at home.

Try and remember that going to a football match with temperatures just above freezing is not everyone's cup of tea.

For those reasons and the cost I gave it a miss last night. I'm afraid the opposition did not motivate me to get out of the house with the little one in tow at all, despite giving it some thought and saying to him I might go. The final straw was thinking of paying £14 plus £3 for him and £10 in diesel, for the privilege of watching us against Corby in freezing cold weather while the Mrs went to local superstores spending as well for equality reasons. It's all about whether you feel that is value for money on a limited family budget, and it didn't inspire me in the end.

We really need to have more cheaper offers like Workington for some games as the general economics of a lot of people are being challenged more and more lately. It's also the only way continue to build up the fanbase, I have a feeling this is faltering despite continued success on the field.


Its easy to forget what some people have to go through to get there on a winter night
I was working at the other side of Coventry yesterday and made it home in time but could easily have missed it on another day with traffic of something else
And quite a few people are self employed and to sit there in artic conditions risks catching a cold or worse and having to have unpaid time of work
All these things count when deciding whether or not to go
And full price against Corby (No disrespect against Corby) but its a lot of money with a Saturday match coming up and a trip to Brackley

I missed the game because as you say many are self employed, i am and have been unable to work since monday due to having laryngitis and losing my voice, and cant afford any more than a weeks lost money especailly at this time of year, so myself my 2 kids and my dad didnt make it last night as i cant afford to risk making it worse. having said that we are all ST holders so the club didnt miss out on the money. Hope to be there saturday.
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1800 is quite good IMO , i go back to before Harry Mc days at Sealand Rd when we struggled to get 1400 for any game , we have never been well supported so 1800 hardcore fans is good for us on a wed night .
I never went for all the reasons previously stated, long drive / diesel/ not an easy ground to get too ( for me)/ Blues bar admission price makes my single pint ( driving) not cheap.Long wait to get away from the ground so late home/ increase in admission price / Xmas.
Plus my mates now like to sit which i hate so no banter for me with mates in the HM.

All the above or a nice bottle of red by the fire =no contest i am afraid.
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