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post Jul 11 2010, 12:01 AM
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post Jul 11 2010, 01:03 AM
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post Jul 11 2010, 06:29 AM
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what happened would not have happened if those thugs had gone to watch a game of football like the
1600ish other people did

they went for a day on the lash then had to prove they were hard fueled on booze

thats the bottom line , the work done by the board and others has been draged through the mud 1st time out how do you like they feel
yet its the polices fault wake up

people calling themselves chester supporters just going to drink thats the problem yet we and our club will now pay the price for there day on the pop angry.gif


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post Jul 11 2010, 06:44 AM
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I think a lot of lessons need to be learnt from yesterday. I was in the club house just before kick off and you could sense then that there was a group of 'people' who were just there for the p**s up. They were singing anti-welsh songs and you could see that the big ugly bouncer in the corner was not appreciating it and had a rye smile on his face as if he was planning something. I'm not saying that he was the cause but you could sense something was brewing.

Having a club house selling beer all game with such people around is not a good idea. There is a reason why alcohol is banned in most football grounds, today showed why. I'm guessing the set up at Colwyn will be similar to other grounds in our league and it may be worth the CFU advising such clubs to close the bar say 15 mins before kick off and keep it closed.

Of course the people involved should be banned, but how easy will this be to police at away games? Therefore we need to take measures to reduce the chance of things like this happening again. Its sad for the true fans who could enjoy a drink and watch the game, but this is the price you pay when idiots are around.


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post Jul 11 2010, 06:58 AM
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QUOTE (Ben @ Jul 11 2010, 07:44 AM) *
I think a lot of lessons need to be learnt from yesterday. I was in the club house just before kick off and you could sense then that there was a group of 'people' who were just there for the p**s up. They were singing anti-welsh songs and you could see that the big ugly bouncer in the corner was not appreciating it and had a rye smile on his face as if he was planning something. I'm not saying that he was the cause but you could sense something was brewing.

Having a club house selling beer all game with such people around is not a good idea. There is a reason why alcohol is banned in most football grounds, today showed why. I'm guessing the set up at Colwyn will be similar to other grounds in our league and it may be worth the CFU advising such clubs to close the bar say 15 mins before kick off and keep it closed.

Of course the people involved should be banned, but how easy will this be to police at away games? Therefore we need to take measures to reduce the chance of things like this happening again. Its sad for the true fans who could enjoy a drink and watch the game, but this is the price you pay when idiots are around.

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post Jul 11 2010, 07:11 AM
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We should think about taking our own security team for away games if that is possible. Also ban 'supporters' ourselves, not leave it to the police to charge offenders.


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post Jul 11 2010, 07:40 AM
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I would also say to all 'true' fans that if this does happen again then please walk away. Yesterday a lot of people went towards that corner, i'm guessing to 'have a look'. This just makes things worse and makes it harder to identify the trouble makers.

If the true fans had moved away from that corner then you would have had the handful of idiots isolated and easy to identity.


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post Jul 11 2010, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE (Ben @ Jul 11 2010, 07:44 AM) *
and it may be worth the CFU advising such clubs to close the bar say 15 mins before kick off and keep it closed.


This is what p**ses me off (and no reflection on you Ben)... was watching a local rugby game (nowhere near Chester) a few weeks back, weather was hot, grabbed myself a cheeky pint and sat on the grass bank watching the game.

It shouldn't need the bar to be closed during the game if it isn't normally closed during the game just because 1% of idiots can't handle their booze.... it they close the bars because of this then me and people like e can't have 1 cheeky beer and watch the match in peace..

I hope it doesn't come to this because "punishing the masses because of the actions of the very small minority" is very much a government mentality on binge drinking etc...

I could easily understand if it happens though.


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post Jul 11 2010, 07:50 AM
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Well said, we need to act strongly and make an example of the trouble makers. Also, as mentioned on another thread the middle aged prats drivelling abuse at the Bay goalie was sad to see.
I was proud of the turn out though, it looks like our new club can afford to alienate/ban a few numpties who can't handle their drink.
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post Jul 11 2010, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE (Chester Lion @ Jul 11 2010, 08:46 AM) *
QUOTE (Ben @ Jul 11 2010, 07:44 AM) *
and it may be worth the CFU advising such clubs to close the bar say 15 mins before kick off and keep it closed.


This is what p**ses me off (and no reflection on you Ben)... was watching a local rugby game (nowhere near Chester) a few weeks back, weather was hot, grabbed myself a cheeky pint and sat on the grass bank watching the game.

It shouldn't need the bar to be closed during the game if it isn't normally closed during the game just because 1% of idiots can't handle their booze.... it they close the bars because of this then me and people like e can't have 1 cheeky beer and watch the match in peace..

I hope it doesn't come to this because "punishing the masses because of the actions of the very small minority" is very much a government mentality on binge drinking etc...

I could easily understand if it happens though.


I agree with you, it is the same at Cricket, you sit and drink all day and rarely see any trouble.

However life is what it is and idiots + beer = trouble, if we cannot stop the idiots then the only other way is to stop the beer. Sad but id rather not have a drink and be able to take my son to games than the other way around.


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post Jul 11 2010, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (Fathead The Gladiator @ Jul 11 2010, 07:11 AM) *
We should think about taking our own security team for away games if that is possible. Also ban 'supporters' ourselves, not leave it to the police to charge offenders.



How do you proposal to 'Ban' people you consider should not attend games? Fans convicted of an offence in Court of Law can be banned.I think you are going down a dangerous route if you think you can single out people you don't consider worthy of following Chester. And in fact, I think if not left up to the Police, this would have the potential for serious trouble and even more division amongst the supporters. A witch hunt springs to mind!


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post Jul 11 2010, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE (Ben @ Jul 11 2010, 08:52 AM) *
QUOTE (Chester Lion @ Jul 11 2010, 08:46 AM) *
QUOTE (Ben @ Jul 11 2010, 07:44 AM) *
and it may be worth the CFU advising such clubs to close the bar say 15 mins before kick off and keep it closed.


This is what p**ses me off (and no reflection on you Ben)... was watching a local rugby game (nowhere near Chester) a few weeks back, weather was hot, grabbed myself a cheeky pint and sat on the grass bank watching the game.

It shouldn't need the bar to be closed during the game if it isn't normally closed during the game just because 1% of idiots can't handle their booze.... it they close the bars because of this then me and people like e can't have 1 cheeky beer and watch the match in peace..

I hope it doesn't come to this because "punishing the masses because of the actions of the very small minority" is very much a government mentality on binge drinking etc...

I could easily understand if it happens though.


I agree with you, it is the same at Cricket, you sit and drink all day and rarely see any trouble.

However life is what it is and idiots + beer = trouble, if we cannot stop the idiots then the only other way is to stop the beer. Sad but id rather not have a drink and be able to take my son to games than the other way around.


I know where you are coming from and to a large extent agree, but for a lot of clubs, takings over the bar form a large part of their income. To use yesterday as an example, a fiver to get in but a couple of pints before the game, one at half time then one at full time would mean a total spend of roughly £15.

Also why should the home supporters not be able to have a pint and discuss the game after just because of the actions of a few idiots.

My solution would be to remove the idiots not the beer. How we do that is far more difficult of course.
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post Jul 11 2010, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE (Blueblister @ Jul 11 2010, 07:50 AM) *
Well said, we need to act strongly and make an example of the trouble makers. Also, as mentioned on another thread the middle aged prats drivelling abuse at the Bay goalie was sad to see.
I was proud of the turn out though, it looks like our new club can afford to alienate/ban a few numpties who can't handle their drink.


I was talking to Bay goalies parents in town last night. He is used to it and considers it all part of the game. He, as in Bays goalie, is a good lad and may be worth a shout as he is not on much at Colwyn Bay and could do a decent job for us as cover.
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post Jul 11 2010, 10:57 AM
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Everyone makes mistakes, I know it was completley unacceptable and overshadowed the positives of the day, but I am strong believer of second chances and this club cannot afford to turn some real Chester fans who on the day got over enthusiastic on alcohol. I'm sure they will be sorry enough to make a formal apology and ofcourse take some punishment, perhaps suspended from the first 5-10 home games. Let them redeem themselves and we can all move on. For those who did have their intensions of ruining the game and clearly are not true enough Chester fans and will be damaging the bright future of CFC, then more drastic action should be implemented.



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post Jul 11 2010, 11:17 AM
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As far as im concerned even if you didnt start the fight as soon as you throw a punch at a game you should be banned. Its very rare with crowds the size that Chester get that you will find yourself in a situation where somebody is kicking off and you are forced to defend yourself, just walk away FFS. Just because somebody else started it does not mean people have to retaliate. There was plenty of space yesterday for people to go and stand away from the fighting but instead more people decided to get involved when a few idiots kicked off and the situation was made worse.

A real fan would always try and avoid a fight rather than get involved in any situation as they know that getting in a fight will only harm the club.
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