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Poll: Moderator Overhaul
Should there be a change in the present moderating team?
Yes - via democratic elections [ 45 ] ** [44.12%]
Yes - via admin (Krankie's) choice [ 24 ] ** [23.53%]
No - things are fine as they stand [ 33 ] ** [32.35%]
Total Votes: 102
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Mancot Blue
post Sep 14 2016, 07:15 AM
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There has been an awful lot of controversy with regards to the way this forum has been moderated, particularly over the last 12 months, so I thought I would gauge the opinions of the forum's users to see if a fresh set of (hidden behind computer screens) faces is required. The vast majority of other football forums have relatively regular elections in which the posting public can vote, and given the constitution of our favourite football club runs along those lines I feel it is only right that we operate in the same manner. Generally, the present moderators would all have to seek reelection and there could be a potential to co-opt other users to the moderating team.

I have tried to keep the poll options to a minimum so we can get a clear reading and so not to dilute the voting. Fire away...
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post Sep 14 2016, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE (Mancot Blue @ Sep 14 2016, 08:15 AM) *
There has been an awful lot of controversy with regards to the way this forum has been moderated, particularly over the last 12 months, so I thought I would gauge the opinions of the forum's users to see if a fresh set of (hidden behind computer screens) faces is required. The vast majority of other football forums have relatively regular elections in which the posting public can vote, and given the constitution of our favourite football club runs along those lines I feel it is only right that we operate in the same manner. Generally, the present moderators would all have to seek reelection and there could be a potential to co-opt other users to the moderating team.

I have tried to keep the poll options to a minimum so we can get a clear reading and so not to dilute the voting. Fire away...

There is a certain irony in having this thread - the mods could remove it biggrin.gif
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post Sep 14 2016, 08:37 AM
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Think a new face or two on board might not be a bad idea, and maybe looking to achieve some sort of 'consistency', as it seems that some have different ideas to others on what should be removed and responded to with a ban.

I would rather it was krankie's choice though. Getting the general public to decide anything is usually a bad idea.
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post Sep 14 2016, 08:42 AM
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I don't see why threads such as the Gary Roberts one need to be locked - Yes it went away from the original subject, but surely this is where mods
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post Sep 14 2016, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (Juan King @ Sep 14 2016, 09:42 AM) *
I don't see why threads such as the Gary Roberts one need to be locked - Yes it went away from the original subject, but surely this is where mods
need to clean it up rather than locking it completely


I've never understood why drifting away from the original topic is a problem. That's how people talk, they start off on one topic then something acts as a segway and they move on to a different subject. Threads that do this just reflect the way we hold conversations.
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post Sep 14 2016, 10:07 AM
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Can the mods see how you vote? ph34r.gif


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post Sep 14 2016, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (Mancot Blue @ Sep 14 2016, 04:45 PM) *
There has been an awful lot of controversy with regards to the way this forum has been moderated, particularly over the last 12 months, so I thought I would gauge the opinions of the forum's users to see if a fresh set of (hidden behind computer screens) faces is required. The vast majority of other football forums have relatively regular elections in which the posting public can vote, and given the constitution of our favourite football club runs along those lines I feel it is only right that we operate in the same manner. Generally, the present moderators would all have to seek reelection and there could be a potential to co-opt other users to the moderating team.

I have tried to keep the poll options to a minimum so we can get a clear reading and so not to dilute the voting. Fire away...


How can you have so-called democratic elections unless you have the whole palaver of manifesto's etc. and how would you know they would do what they say anyway? This all costs time and good money too to do!
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post Sep 14 2016, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE (JamesDee @ Sep 14 2016, 11:34 AM) *
QUOTE (Mancot Blue @ Sep 14 2016, 04:45 PM) *
There has been an awful lot of controversy with regards to the way this forum has been moderated, particularly over the last 12 months, so I thought I would gauge the opinions of the forum's users to see if a fresh set of (hidden behind computer screens) faces is required. The vast majority of other football forums have relatively regular elections in which the posting public can vote, and given the constitution of our favourite football club runs along those lines I feel it is only right that we operate in the same manner. Generally, the present moderators would all have to seek reelection and there could be a potential to co-opt other users to the moderating team.

I have tried to keep the poll options to a minimum so we can get a clear reading and so not to dilute the voting. Fire away...


How can you have so-called democratic elections unless you have the whole palaver of manifesto's etc. and how would you know they would do what they say anyway? This all costs time and good money too to do!

I bet you were a right laugh picking football teams in break time at school.


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QUOTE (DanLB @ Sep 14 2016, 11:07 AM) *
Can the mods see how you vote? ph34r.gif


They can see the collective results the same as anyone else can, but not who's voted what individually. I'm not sure what admin capabilities krankie and Devachat himself have, but I don't think they'd be able to see it either.
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post Sep 14 2016, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE (XWWB @ Sep 14 2016, 12:08 PM) *
QUOTE (DanLB @ Sep 14 2016, 11:07 AM) *
Can the mods see how you vote? ph34r.gif


They can see the collective results the same as anyone else can, but not who's voted what individually. I'm not sure what admin capabilities krankie and Devachat himself have, but I don't think they'd be able to see it either.

I'm happy to leave it up to Krankie, as long as they retain 3mm who does a great job as moderator! biggrin.gif


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post Sep 14 2016, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE (Mancot Blue @ Sep 14 2016, 07:15 AM) *
There has been an awful lot of controversy with regards to the way this forum has been moderated, particularly over the last 12 months, so I thought I would gauge the opinions of the forum's users to see if a fresh set of (hidden behind computer screens) faces is required. The vast majority of other football forums have relatively regular elections in which the posting public can vote, and given the constitution of our favourite football club runs along those lines I feel it is only right that we operate in the same manner. Generally, the present moderators would all have to seek reelection and there could be a potential to co-opt other users to the moderating team.

I have tried to keep the poll options to a minimum so we can get a clear reading and so not to dilute the voting. Fire away...


Well, I'm not going to vote until a paid member of the club tells me via facebook/twitter/instagram/snapchat who I shouldn't vote for!
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post Sep 14 2016, 02:12 PM
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Over 80% of voters want change so far...
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post Sep 14 2016, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (Mancot Blue @ Sep 14 2016, 11:42 PM) *
Over 80% of voters want change so far...


Only 31 votes so fsr out of 662 hits is a very small percentage!

I'm not sure that I can agree with your: "there has been an awful lot of controversy with regards to the way this forum has been moderated, particularly over the last 12 months". In my observations they seem to be about the same as alwaysand what controversies have we had an awful lot of.?

And for clarification regarding my earlier post - I was referring to the costs of holding a democratic secret ballot election with envelopes and postage etc..

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PS My school days were some 75-80 years ago before and during WW2 when we had no money for filling out the pools even if we knew about them. They were very tough times.
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post Sep 14 2016, 02:37 PM
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Leave it as it is - who would want to be a moderator anyway if the present guys were binned off?
Don't always agree with their inconsistencies but wouldn't want their job either so I would just add whomever wants to moderate rather than replace...


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post Sep 14 2016, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (JamesDee @ Sep 14 2016, 03:31 PM) *
QUOTE (Mancot Blue @ Sep 14 2016, 11:42 PM) *

Over 80% of voters want change so far...


Only 31 votes so fsr out of 662 hits is a very small percentage!



And for clarification regarding my earlier post - I was referring to the costs of holding a democratic secret ballot election with envelopes and postage etc..


Fair enough on your first point, there isn't much of a mandate based on the percentage of the "electorate".

As for your second point, I genuinely cannot tell whether or not you are being serious.
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post Sep 14 2016, 05:26 PM
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The mods don't need overhauling, just Devon Blue. The man is on some sort of midlife power trip. Ok, he doesn't want swearing but the bans he has handed out are pathetic. At least two posters have recently been banned and no longer post on here. And there is strong rumour he banned them because of their opinion of a former club employee and this is just wrong.
Devon Blue out.
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post Sep 14 2016, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE (XWWB @ Sep 14 2016, 09:37 AM) *
Think a new face or two on board might not be a bad idea, and maybe looking to achieve some sort of 'consistency', as it seems that some have different ideas to others on what should be removed and responded to with a ban.

I would rather it was krankie's choice though. Getting the general public to decide anything is usually a bad idea.


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post Sep 15 2016, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (Mancot Blue @ Sep 14 2016, 08:15 AM) *
There has been an awful lot of controversy with regards to the way this forum has been moderated, particularly over the last 12 months, so I thought I would gauge the opinions of the forum's users to see if a fresh set of (hidden behind computer screens) faces is required. The vast majority of other football forums have relatively regular elections in which the posting public can vote, and given the constitution of our favourite football club runs along those lines I feel it is only right that we operate in the same manner. Generally, the present moderators would all have to seek reelection and there could be a potential to co-opt other users to the moderating team.

I have tried to keep the poll options to a minimum so we can get a clear reading and so not to dilute the voting. Fire away...
Me thinks that this idea is driven by minority interests.
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post Sep 15 2016, 10:34 AM
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in fairness there has been a lot of moaning about the moderation on this board of late.


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QUOTE (iandyChesterCity @ Sep 15 2016, 11:34 AM) *
in fairness there has been a lot of moderation about the moaning on this board of late.

Tidied that up a bit.


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I don't think I've ever been modded myself, perhaps I should try harder?! In fairness I don't envy anyone who carries out the role, it's a bit like being a good match ref, let things flow, don't be too hands on but equally don't be too lax that people take the pee - far harder than most believe is all that!

I do notice that on occasion certain names come in for more criticism than others (two in reality), either for being too hands on or occasionally for allegedly sowing bias for certain individuals at the club. How fair that criticism really is I honestly don't know, but perhaps a way to make things better would be to have locked threads, deleted posts and banned posters very briefly explained each time it happens when things are likely to be controversial.


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post Sep 15 2016, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (iandyChesterCity @ Sep 15 2016, 11:34 AM) *
in fairness there has been a lot of moaning about the moderation on this board of late.

A lot of the moaning has been about just one moderator.
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QUOTE (Derry Blue @ Sep 15 2016, 11:10 PM) *
QUOTE (iandyChesterCity @ Sep 15 2016, 11:34 AM) *
in fairness there has been a lot of moaning about the moderation on this board of late.

A lot of the moaning has been about just one moderator.

Devon blue out.
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post Sep 17 2016, 10:06 AM
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I'll give this a few more days but so far it appears the people are overwhelmingly in favour of change by 72% to 28% for the status quo.
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