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> " Should he stay or should he go" ?, Jamie Rainford......
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post Dec 27 2011, 09:23 AM
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Seeing that Jamie Rainford is due back at the club next week, I was thinking what the next move should be by the club and himself.......Me, Id like to see him stay. I know things have been said on the social network sites etc, but hey dont we all sometimes say things we regret? He has had time to concentrate on his game and is playing well if you read FCHFC's web site. Also with the suspensions we are picking up atm it gives Youngy more options on the field. Humble Pie does have to be eaten ,but its not hard to swallow....at the end of the day I'd rather have him scoring for us than against...... COYB cityscarf.gif


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post Dec 27 2011, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (russ45 @ Dec 27 2011, 09:23 AM) *
Seeing that Jamie Rainford is due back at the club next week, I was thinking what the next move should be by the club and himself.......Me, Id like to see him stay. I know things have been said on the social network sites etc, but hey dont we all sometimes say things we regret? He has had time to concentrate on his game and is playing well if you read FCHFC's web site. Also with the suspensions we are picking up atm it gives Youngy more options on the field. Humble Pie does have to be eaten ,but its not hard to swallow....at the end of the day I'd rather have him scoring for us than against...... COYB cityscarf.gif

I would like him to stay give him till the end of the season I really think he will come good for us.
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post Dec 27 2011, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE (andyhubbard @ Dec 27 2011, 09:56 AM) *
QUOTE (russ45 @ Dec 27 2011, 09:23 AM) *
Seeing that Jamie Rainford is due back at the club next week, I was thinking what the next move should be by the club and himself.......Me, Id like to see him stay. I know things have been said on the social network sites etc, but hey dont we all sometimes say things we regret? He has had time to concentrate on his game and is playing well if you read FCHFC's web site. Also with the suspensions we are picking up atm it gives Youngy more options on the field. Humble Pie does have to be eaten ,but its not hard to swallow....at the end of the day I'd rather have him scoring for us than against...... COYB cityscarf.gif

I would like him to stay give him till the end of the season I really think he will come good for us.



I agree mate, I know hes said things, but I think it was more out of frustration than anything.....give him a chance.


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post Dec 27 2011, 10:07 AM
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He can go for me, had his chance and blew it, nothing but a trouble maker.
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post Dec 27 2011, 10:17 AM
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Not wanted by me im afraid, let the lad go and cry to his facebook 'friends' about us again.

He's burnt his bridges now and we should all move on, he will never get the chance to play at a bigger part time club and if he had made a name for himself here he could have had a crack at going pro.

As has been said, had his chance and blew it big time and comes across a big spoilt kid.



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post Dec 27 2011, 10:18 AM
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post Dec 27 2011, 10:29 AM
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Certainly has an attitude problem and will our players want to welcome him back into the fold.
Get our money back I say and spend it on a team player. He is past history already.
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post Dec 27 2011, 11:18 AM
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I would rather see JR stay.He is a class player at this level and can do a job for us.
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post Dec 27 2011, 11:22 AM
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rather see him stay at the minute. Wildey looked miles off the pace yesterday and simmo just looked totally disinterested when he came on (although getting moved about position wise Probably didnt help).
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post Dec 27 2011, 11:33 AM
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Should be down to the players and Youngy, only they know what he's like in the dressing room.

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post Dec 27 2011, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (bluemorf @ Dec 27 2011, 11:22 AM) *
rather see him stay at the minute. Wildey looked miles off the pace yesterday and simmo just looked totally disinterested when he came on (although getting moved about position wise Probably didnt help).

I don't want to JR back but to be honest, given Wilde and Simm's recent displays getting rid of Rainford becomes slightly more difficult. He's scoring goals and playing well by all accounts in a league above - Simmo is playing like he'd struggle to make an impact in the league below!

The lad clearly talks rubbish on an impressively regular basis, but, yesterday did get me thinking...


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post Dec 27 2011, 12:11 PM
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Our form has been far better since he left and if we can get some cash for him im sure we could bring in a new player who would do a job for us and behave professionally off the pitch. Let him go imo.
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post Dec 27 2011, 12:27 PM
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post Dec 27 2011, 12:32 PM
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I'm a bit like others - after yesterday, I think it's worth trying to reconcile. If he's willing to comeback and try again, we should give him a clean slate. If he doesn't want to work for it though, there's no point in him being here, and shipping him out works best for all parties.


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post Dec 27 2011, 12:40 PM
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Get shut of him. Just because he's been half decent at halifax doesn't mean he's going to come back and play well for us.
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post Dec 27 2011, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE (Buckley Blue @ Dec 27 2011, 12:40 PM) *
Get shut of him. Just because he's been half decent at halifax doesn't mean he's going to come back and play well for us.


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post Dec 27 2011, 01:06 PM
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I think he should go and the money re-invested in other parts of the team.

We're not short of strikers, but we do need an on-pitch leader who can calm things down when necessary and who can instil discipline into players during games, something which is evidently lacking at the moment.

Yesterday, indiscipline cost us 2 points and gifted a point to our nearest rivals. Being 1-0 up early on against a team reduced to 10 men with the dismissal of their goalkeeper should have been a comfortable winning position.

I'd go for an extra central defender and a central midfielder in exchange for Rainford. At least one of them needs to be an experienced player.


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post Dec 27 2011, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE (Posh Jon @ Dec 27 2011, 12:32 PM) *
I'm a bit like others - after yesterday, I think it's worth trying to reconcile. If he's willing to comeback and try again, we should give him a clean slate. If he doesn't want to work for it though, there's no point in him being here, and shipping him out works best for all parties.


I would hope that yesterday plays no part in Young's decision regarding Rainford as I dont think it was an accurate representation of either teams ability. Obviously people are disappointed but I dont see why so many seem surprised. A high pressure boxing day clash between 2 part time title rivals in front of a massive crowd was always going to result in both teams playing below their level of ability. If we had played just as badly but edged the game 1-0 everyone would be saying how it was a hard earned 3 points and evidence that we are clearly on course for the title.

Since Rainford left we have won every game in the league until yesterday scoring 14 goals and conceding 2 in our previous 5 games as well as progressing well in the FA trophy. Hardly a sign that we are desperate for him to come back. Every defeat and draw this season has been met with a positive response in our next league game so yesterday is really no reason to panic at all yet.

If Rainford is to come back he has to accept we have a team of players who overall are playing very well and will have to work his b*ll*cks off all season to have a chance of playing and not sulk and moan if he doesnt get as much game time as he would like.
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (TomCCFC87 @ Dec 27 2011, 01:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Posh Jon @ Dec 27 2011, 12:32 PM) *
I'm a bit like others - after yesterday, I think it's worth trying to reconcile. If he's willing to comeback and try again, we should give him a clean slate. If he doesn't want to work for it though, there's no point in him being here, and shipping him out works best for all parties.


I would hope that yesterday plays no part in Young's decision regarding Rainford as I dont think it was an accurate representation of either teams ability. Obviously people are disappointed but I dont see why so many seem surprised. A high pressure boxing day clash between 2 part time title rivals in front of a massive crowd was always going to result in both teams playing below their level of ability. If we had played just as badly but edged the game 1-0 everyone would be saying how it was a hard earned 3 points and evidence that we are clearly on course for the title.

Since Rainford left we have won every game in the league until yesterday scoring 14 goals and conceding 2 in our previous 5 games as well as progressing well in the FA trophy. Hardly a sign that we are desperate for him to come back. Every defeat and draw this season has been met with a positive response in our next league game so yesterday is really no reason to panic at all yet.

If Rainford is to come back he has to accept we have a team of players who overall are playing very well and will have to work his b*ll*cks off all season to have a chance of playing and not sulk and moan if he doesnt get as much game time as he would like.

..it's a difficult one to call,but my opinion,for what it's worth,is that i can't believe him coming back, will be good for the changing room atmosphere.
I would've taken a point before the game yesterday,so despite what went on,i'm happy with a point.anybody who has,or who plays football knows that situations like yesterday,goalie going off etc.doesn't automatically mean you are going to win the game,so still unbeaten,let's get behind them against Nantwich,another difficult game,and we owe them one!!!!


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QUOTE (Neil Fishers Biggest Fan @ Dec 27 2011, 01:50 PM) *
QUOTE (TomCCFC87 @ Dec 27 2011, 01:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Posh Jon @ Dec 27 2011, 12:32 PM) *
I'm a bit like others - after yesterday, I think it's worth trying to reconcile. If he's willing to comeback and try again, we should give him a clean slate. If he doesn't want to work for it though, there's no point in him being here, and shipping him out works best for all parties.


I would hope that yesterday plays no part in Young's decision regarding Rainford as I dont think it was an accurate representation of either teams ability. Obviously people are disappointed but I dont see why so many seem surprised. A high pressure boxing day clash between 2 part time title rivals in front of a massive crowd was always going to result in both teams playing below their level of ability. If we had played just as badly but edged the game 1-0 everyone would be saying how it was a hard earned 3 points and evidence that we are clearly on course for the title.

Since Rainford left we have won every game in the league until yesterday scoring 14 goals and conceding 2 in our previous 5 games as well as progressing well in the FA trophy. Hardly a sign that we are desperate for him to come back. Every defeat and draw this season has been met with a positive response in our next league game so yesterday is really no reason to panic at all yet.

If Rainford is to come back he has to accept we have a team of players who overall are playing very well and will have to work his b*ll*cks off all season to have a chance of playing and not sulk and moan if he doesnt get as much game time as he would like.

..it's a difficult one to call,but my opinion,for what it's worth,is that i can't believe him coming back, will be good for the changing room atmosphere.
I would've taken a point before the game yesterday,so despite what went on,i'm happy with a point.anybody who has,or who plays football knows that situations like yesterday,goalie going off etc.doesn't automatically mean you are going to win the game,so still unbeaten,let's get behind them against Nantwich,another difficult game,and we owe them one!!!!


Its probably worth mentioning as well that his level of ability was never an issue but his ability to cope with the pressure in front of goal seemed to let him down time and time again. He has gone on loan to a club where he was under less pressure and would be returning to a situation where he would be under more pressure than ever which to me is a massive risk.
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post Dec 27 2011, 02:37 PM
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I think his pace combined with his ability to take on, and beat players could have made the difference at Northwich. As long as he's on our books he has my support!
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post Dec 27 2011, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE (K klass @ Dec 27 2011, 02:37 PM) *
I think his pace combined with his ability to take on, and beat players could have made the difference at Northwich. As long as he's on our books he has my support!


Didn't see it when he was here, no reason to think he'd be any better 2nd time around. Do i hear £10,000? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 02:52 PM
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Would move him on even at a loss. I believe him to be a disruptive influence to his fellow players, fans and management team.

For those reasons and his own dislike of the fans and club

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post Dec 27 2011, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (woolston blue @ Dec 27 2011, 02:50 PM) *
QUOTE (K klass @ Dec 27 2011, 02:37 PM) *
I think his pace combined with his ability to take on, and beat players could have made the difference at Northwich. As long as he's on our books he has my support!


Didn't see it when he was here, no reason to think he'd be any better 2nd time around. Do i hear £10,000? biggrin.gif

I think that whilst he was here his finishing and decision making were way off the mark. He's clearly back on form now though. On the other hand if he IS (as is banded around) a disruptive influence in the dressing room then show him the door! The decision rests Neil Young. I for one will respect and support his decision.
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QUOTE (JMC @ Dec 27 2011, 11:33 AM) *
Should be down to the players and Youngy, only they know what he's like in the dressing room.

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I'll go with this. If the lads who have to play and train with him are ok with him back and Youngy is sure he will not upset and demoralise a group of players who all seem to want to give 100% I'm happy.


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